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In another thread I added two small tutorials for mapping in traktor.
It seemed like a good way to show beginning mappers where to begin, answer mapping questions, and see what other people are mapping.
This way every one can get new ideas and learn how to map their own.
The format is:
title with subject
description of the mapping, (maybe a very short video to show it)
text explanation in steps
screen shots of the mapping window.
see my two tutorials down here.
How to map master select LED output.
Is also in the standard X1 mapping, but good to know, if you ever change it.
first picture is for the button assignment second for the LED
Master set to deck… button and LED output
How to assign a button to the master tempo button for the corresponding deck, and make it light up if that deck is currently selected as master tempo.
Add in: ‘Set to master’ to the button you want (‘set to master’ can be found under tempo.)
o Assign it to the deck you want
o Interaction mode: trigger
Add out: ‘master tempo select’ to the same button (can also be found under tempo.)
o Change the controller range min and max to the same number (according to the deck you want)
Deck A = 0
Deck B = 1
Deck C = 2
Deck D = 3
button
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PacUF9F8pmU/TT...select%201.jpg
LED
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PacUF9F8pmU/TT...select%202.jpg
This mapping is standard in the X1 mapping, but it is explained how it works.
Advanced FX section, LED output
When buttons are mapped to specific effects (effect select) and you want the corresponding button to light up when the effect is selected. The LED controller range needs to be set to the place of the effect in the list
Effect: Delay, place in list: 1, range min. 1, range max. 1
Effect: beatmasher 2, place in list 15: , range min. 15, range max. 15
And so on.
The mapping goes as followed
Add out… FX advanced – Effect select
o select your desired LED on your controller
o condition 1: Fx panel mode = 1
o Assign it to the FX unit you want
o In the LED options section, select the controller range as stated above
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PacUF9F8pmU/TT...0ouput%201.jpg
Hey guys.
If you use an X1 and would like browser view when you go to select a track, and switch back to deck view when you load a track, here's what you need to do.
You will need to add two extra commands, mapped to the browser knob and load button.
The first command you are going to add is to tell traktor that when you move the browse encoder, you want to switch to browse mode. So to do that, go into the controller manager, select the X1 and do the following:
Add In
Only Browser Toggle
Type Of Controller: Button
Interaction Mode: Direct, Value=1
Click on learn and move the left browse to map it.
Now by selecting direct and setting the value to 1, as soon as you touch the knob the value changes and will stay there until we use the second command to change it back to "0".
Here's what it should look like ...
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7...sertoggle1.jpg
Now when you scroll through tracks the view will change to Browser Mode.
The second command you want to add is to tell traktor that one you have chosen your track, and go to load it, you want the view to revert back to deck view. So here's how we go about that:
Add In
Only Browser Toggle
Type Of Controller: Button
Interaction Mode: Direct, Value=0
Click on learn and click the browse knob in to map it.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7...sertoggle2.jpg
So now when you load a track, the view will change back to Deck View.
Duplicate these for the right knob and you are ready to rock.
Remember also, with the standard X1 mapping, SHIFT+LOAD toggles your view as well.
BONUS MAPPING
Now that you've got the deck/ browser view sorted, how about monitor cue toggles as well? Lets have a look at that.
Now of course you can have all 4 decks cued at the same time, what i like however is the deck that i just loaded a track into to be monitored, and thats it so here's how you do that.
We'll use Deck A as an example.
This first part is straightforward, Just add a monitor cue mapping set to Deck A, mapped to your load button but use "Direct" instead of "Toggle" which you will see why shortly.
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8030/image000x.png
Now here's the tedious part...
You need to duplicate this 3 times, mapped to this same load button, but change the assignment on these to Decks B, C & D respectively and change the value to "0".
Now go ahead and test this out. Select the monitor cues and Decks B,C & D and load a track into Deck A with the load button you just mapped. Deck A will be cued but all the other decks wont be. Its not magic, its science baby!
Rinse and repeat for all the other decks and we'll see you next year ;)
Jester out.
Modifier condition list
These have the same effect as modifers but aren’t triggered by buttons. These are triggered by events, preferences and current status.
FX panel mode
o 0 = chained
o 1= advanced
Is in loop
o 0 = when assinged deck is currently looping control won’t work.
o 1 = when assinged deck is currently looping control will work.
Play/pause
o 0 = control will only work if assigned deck is paused
o 1 = control will only work if assigned deck is playing
this is useful if you want certain commands to work only if something other than a modifier is on.
There is deck mode and tempo range too in the condition menu, but I don't really see the use for that
Mapping a “dual” knob
One knob controls two parameters when modifier button is hold
We are going to make a button (modifier) wich, when pressed and hold, will make one knob control two parameters. This way you can adjust two FX parameters with one knob, or control the parameters with their own knobs.
Steps:
Put FX unit 1 into chained mode. (this does not effect the mapping process but I find it easier to have a visual of the actual controls in the software.)
Assign a modifier to an un used button. In this case modfier #1(I use the on/off button for the FX. In chained mode this button has no use)
o Set the value to 1
o Button mode = hold
o condition 1: Fx panel mode = 0 (0=chained, 1= advanced)
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PacUF9F8pmU/TU...odifier%29.jpg
Assign the first knob to effect 1 amount like normal
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PacUF9F8pmU/TU...amount%201.jpg
Assign the first knob to effect 2 amount
o Condition 1: M1=1 (modifier 1 = 1)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PacUF9F8pmU/TU...20knob%201.jpg
Map effect 2 amount to FX knob 2 (like you did for FX 1)
Now when you press and hold your button in chained mode, the modifier 1 value will be 1.
This will cause the first knob to control effect 1 amount and effect 2 amount.
When the button is not pressed the knobs will control the corresponding FX parameter.
Loading FX and FX chains when in chained FX mode
This is a very easy mapping tip. You can choose to assign one effect to a button. Or a whole chain. This tip is only to LOAD the effects into the unit, not tweaking parameters or settings.
Add in… ‘Effect 1 Select’ to the button you want. (in FX chained)
o Make sure the interaction mode is set to direct
o Assign to the desired FX unit
o Set the value to the effect you want the button to load.
o Set the FX panel mode to 0
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PacUF9F8pmU/TU...select%201.jpg
To load a chain repeat the same steps to the same button, each time with a different effect.
o Do this 3 times to load all three effects in the effect slots.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PacUF9F8pmU/TU...select%202.jpg
Now when you press the button the selected FX unit will change to the effects you mapped.
You can repeat this process with another button to store more chain presets.
This is not really a mapping tip, but non the less very useful.
I did not know traktor had this feature till today.
Alot of people will propably know already but for everyone who doesn’t, here you go!
in the deck details tab, there is a part named deck heading.
Here you can select what information is shown above the waveform.
(track title, artist, BPM etc.)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_P...20settings.jpg
These are my settings.
In the bottom row you see “beats” and “beats to cue”. These are the ones I discovered.
“Beats” gives you the count from the first beat to the position in the song you are.
“Beats to cue” counts down the beats till the next cue point.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_P...%20numbers.jpg
44 is counted in 4 bars, or 16 beats.
2 is counted in 1 bar, or 4 beats
1 is counted in beats.
This feature is very usefull, to see if songs are at the same place in a build up, not only in sync.
Get to know this feature and it can be of much help.
This thread should be stickied i think. Great stuff mate, keep em coming.
per joostiisme's request here are some of my mapping videos to add to the thread.
Sorry about not quite following the posting format. Some videos will walk you through step by step, others just tell you what you need to map. So if you can't figure out what to do from the video, come back to it after learning some of the more more basic midi mappings.You also may have to go to the youtube description to get the values to map.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF-KGo4uXNA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCRVScNx-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tce739CHTgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsfe9uY2ZWU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMI9J4Ujx3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHV2TRtUm8
NO mapping thread would be complete without ArmyofMe4340's video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMbsAIBs3uE
+1 That video really kind of made a light bulb click for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanGogo
LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this thread. Just throwing my 2 cents in there if I had a new innovative idea to throw up I would.
Throw some questions up guys.
thanks vangogo!
nice collection you have there, dont worry about the format.
Maybe If the thread starts rolling we could make an article out of it for the main page.
So not only forum members with mapping questions see it.
just a thought for the future.
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alright, looks to be the first question in this thread...
i have a Numark Mixtrack and an Akai MPD26 just came in the mail today. what i'm trying to set up right now is having deck A and B controlled with the Mixtrack, including cues/hotcues/etc for those decks. decks C and D i would like to set up to control hot cues like sample decks with pre-put-together tracks that are just sets of 8 samples in a row that i jump around with hot cues, if that makes any sense, using the MPD26. the MPD26 would also be used for deleting hot cues on all 4 decks, faders and knobs for effects/filters, etc.
so, i finally figured out how to map the hot cues for the sample decks on C and D with the MPD26, but now when i press the assigned button to set or delete a cue in one of those it does the sample action on the same hot cue number in deck a for c, and b for d. why is it doing this and does anyone know what i did wrong so i can change it so the hot cues are only controlled on c/d and not a/b simultaneously. i changed everything on the Mixtrack so it's on CC#1, and all controls on the MPD26 are on CC#2, so it's not a matter of overlapping controllers.
@Tombruton, as far as im concerned you can add these tips and tutorials to your book, mine at least. you could ask vangogo, about his.
I scrolled thru your book. looks very good!
Hi there trying to use maping for mpd24 like Tom B But it conflics with my midifighter how can i use all without conflics .What i have is tsp 1.2.7 the rest is in my sig any help would be greatly appreciated .Trying to learn to map but for some reason my mpd is sending signal to traktor but is not doing any thing. When I install Toms maping All it does is key and one cue point thats it.
What are peoples tips on how to approach mapping (sorry if this has been answered in vids, i cant see them at work).
I started mapping last night and seem to realise its best for me (unless i'm missing something0 to split the sections of the mapping into there own tsi's. I set up a deck a tsi a deck b tsi and a global tsi. This way i could then duplicate just my A to make a B and i could do the same with A to make a C etc ... Ive read somewhere there is a tsi merger if i remember right so i can put them all together once ive finished.
Am i along the right tracks or am is there some wonderful functionality i have missed somewhere?
Hi all !!!
Whether to me my controler clearly, truly works in "loop FX section".
The knob operates "loop out". But after all I can operate "loop out" with buttons "loop\2" and "loop x2."
Actually question: how to correct a config that loop fx section supervised "loop in"???
Sorry for my bad english.
Hey download a copy of my book the answer with screen shots is there. Its on the F&Q page at the end of the book under the heading, I have two controllers and they seem to beconflicting?
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Originally Posted by deejaygee
AWWW....cheers Squire!
:)
The TSi merger doesn't work anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
It was made for an older version of traktor. since then NI changed the TSI codes.
your frikkin jokin!! Nooo!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by joostiisme
I think it only works for 1.1.1
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
Have tried a number of Tsi's lately and am settling on a configuration for the X1 that copes with most of what I want to do. However...:)
I want to remap the FX1 FX2 buttons below deck A and Deck B browser buttons as follows, and I'm having a hell of a time for reasons that will become clear:
Basic Mode: Deck A
FX1: Slam crossfader left - so when I hit it, the crossfader, from wherever it is along the crossfade path jumps immediately to full Deck A, and stays there after I release the button.
FX2: Gradual crossfade that moves the crossfader (at a reasonable rate, but not too fast) toward the Deck A side, from wherever it is on the crossfade path. When I touch the button it should move only while I have the button held down, and then remain where it stops when I release the button.
Shift Mode: Deck A - as for NI Standard map, unchanged.
Basic Mode: Deck B
FX1 - Gradual crossfade that moves the crossfader (at a reasonable rate, but not too fast) toward the Deck B side, from wherever it is on the crossfade path. When I touch the button it should move only while I have the button held down, and then remain where it stops when I release the button.
FX2 - Slam crossfader right - so when I hit it, the crossfader, from wherever it is along the crossfade path jumps immediately to full Deck B, and stays there after I release the button.
Shift Mode Deck B: as for NI Standard map, unchanged.
To cover the loss of functionality, I'd thought of having the Top LHS Deck A FX1 'on' button act so that if I push it, it activates FX1 for both deck A&B (I use chained mode only so this button's doing nothing and is not lit up or triggering anything as far as I can tell.
Same approach for the Top RHS Deck B FX2 'on' button, so it activates FX2 on both deck A&B.
Apologies for the big post, but thought it better to fully describe what I'm trying to achieve.
what I can't get my head around is the crossfader gradual movement and position stop upon release, the slam (is it possible?) and having two targets (FX1 on deck A&B turn on / off) but with only 1 button mapped to it.
any assistance gratefully recieved :)
Cheers,
Drex
add an in for the x fader for each your slam buttons, set it to 'button' and 'direct' then see what putting in different values gives you. I don't know for sure but it could be 0 for left and 1 for right, then decimals in between.Quote:
Originally Posted by drex
as for a gradual move, you want the same command but instead of 'direct' map one to 'inc' (increase) and the other to 'dec' (decrease) then play with the resolution options.
I can't remember the name of the command for FX bank targeting but it should be pretty self evident in the 'IN' options, then just make 2 copies of that command, one for deck A and one for deck B. Set it to toggle mode as it wil probably default to hold.
This is a mixture of memory and guesswork so don't blame me if I'm wrong!
P.S. are you sure you want to activate all your effects on BOTH decks at the same time? That would stop you from using them for transitions since you'd be affecting both tracks. Wouldn't it be better to activate both FX1 and FX2 one deck at a time?
Hi Fullenglishpint,
Thanks for the reply, I'll have a go with the suggestions you've made, I guess you can understand why it's not that clear with the crossfader stuff.
What I'm ultimately trying to get to with this idea is being able to slam to A or B for a quick cut, but also to hold A or B and slam across to the other deck to do a kind of manual stutter cut..;), so I'd hold the deck the track was playing on then punch the other deck, get a quick cut, and while holding both decks 'on' the crossfader will stay at the deck it just moved to. Whichever deck slam I release, the crossfader jumps to the deck with the held button.
Can't wait to try this with some Psytrance for builds and quick cut stuff.
On the FX switching, you're right. That's how I like to do some effected transitions, so I guess what I need is actually to map the Top LHS Deck A FX1 'on' to turn on FX1 and FX2 for Deck A, and map the Top RHS Deck B FX2 'on' to turn on FX1 and FX2 for Deck B. Then trans would be easy (don't misinterpret that last statement:D).
So, how do you do use one controller button to activate two FX buttons with one button press?
Thanks for your help, if anyone else has ideas, I'm all ears:)
Cheers,
Drex
This is a great thread. It is very helpful. I have learned so much over the past few hours of mapping my s4 and my midi fighter.
hello to all
I have a question about having several tsi.....i have 2 kontrol x1 and 2 Denon Dns 3700 in hybrid mode (excellent .tsI downloaded from Denon djforum-mcclub)…this 4 "midi device" dont work together: many conflict…
The Kontrol x1 i just plug and play.....the denon .tsi, i add in control manager: one .tsi for deck A and another for .tsi for deck B - each one it set to in-por-out-port
I have PC window 7- TSP 1.2.7………¿How can i make this works?…thank you very much in advance for the help......rjfermin
sorry for my english
What do you mean by conflicts? If each one is set to its own input and output as you said (not 'all ports') there shouldn't be conflicting messages. What exactly is happening?
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Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
fullenglishpint,..thanks a lot for the quick response..
This is what happens: when i try to load 3700 tsi (2 kontrol x1):
-One time i had it all working ... i turn off everything and turn on again ...and it did not work again.
-Everytime i have to add the tsi when i open TSP, even thought i see it in control manager.
-Sometimes only works one cd player setting in in-port and out port to all-port.
-Sometimes, when are "working" both decks: the bpm is really unstable on both decks...unuseable
- Last time i check: tested to work only with the denon (KX1-No connected) and still does not work....
I tested certain thing i have found in the forums.
- Saving the denon tsi in several diferent folder
- Dowloading tsi several times in case it was "broken".
I have to try several things i have read in forums:
- Disconnect the laptop webcam
- Clean registry of midi divice in windows configurations (i dont know how to)
I have read that the denon and kx1 have conflict.
Maybe i am missing something in setting, but i have done the setting following information on the forums and manuals
This is in Denon hybrid mode...set both 3700 to ch1 and ch2 for midi respectively (denon specificatios)....KX1 i just plug and play.
2 denon 3700 (v.2020) , 2 kx1, Denon dnx 1600 (using the soundcard for TSP), Window 7. TSP 1.2.7
i hope you understand this, thanks again...
Have you tried turning on Traktor with the Denon's not plugged in then plugging them in? I have no idea if it will be better or worse, just an idea.
..i think... i have tried by mistake: forgotten to turn it on the denon before tsp..I will try it again....thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by photojojo
This may be totally irrelevant, but have you tried loading the individual .tsi files with the big import button twice then restarting Traktor twice?
I have not try this....i will try it... i hope it works...thanks again...Quote:
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
anyone knows how to map a maschine so that the hot cues work properly ?. With properly i mean that pad 1 plays cue point 1 pad 2 cue point 2 etc... But only plays it . No sync or anything else... I expended the whole night and till now nothing. Please help !
Hi, I discovered this one yesterday. When you are just using your keyboard to mix, you will not have any way to know if a modifier is on or off.So you can use the tool tips button in the superior right corner to show it :cool:.
Just map the "Tools Tips Toggle" to the same key than your modifier :D. Let me know any questions.
Excellent tip!
I wish NI would add a few "lights" in the software that you could custom label for this also.
Just a note, in the S4 software you don't have that button where you can see it.:(