Fellow DJTT junkies,
I'm wondering how you guys know exactly what's hot in the DJing world, besides staring at the Beaport Top 10 Downloads?
Let me know, because that's exactly what I've been doing for the past few months (as a noob).
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Fellow DJTT junkies,
I'm wondering how you guys know exactly what's hot in the DJing world, besides staring at the Beaport Top 10 Downloads?
Let me know, because that's exactly what I've been doing for the past few months (as a noob).
Download live sets/podcasts from your favorite dj's
Actually, it's quite the opposite of this. I follow a bunch of labels/artists and spend some time listening to semi-random stuff, giving 2-3 sec per sample for them to catch my attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by victoryrisen
What? Just listen to lots of stuff and decide what you think rocks. I'd rather have something I play not being from Beatport Top10-Lists (;)) - and as far as taste goes, there really is no manual for that :p
Oh, and when skimming through tracks I usually imagine myself on the dancefloor when those tracks are played - and then see if it fits the style/mood I'm looking for at that particular moment...
Well don't worry about what's hot first of all... if you take requests you'll find out without any effort.
-Find what you like and watch videos on youtube of those tracks... follow the related links on the right side.
-Check out similar artists to the ones you already have huge tracks from ->
- Facebook: Use the artists you've entered in your profile to find friends who also
like them. Check out their favorite artists that are similar.
- Last.fm
- Pandora
- Google: Type in "similar artist to <blank>"
- Similarartist.com
Beatport's top ten aren't really tracks that are going to set you apart as a good, tasteful dj. In my opinion, they're just tracks people expect to hear and expect you to have. If that's what you're looking for you don't really need to exert much effort in the hunt.
Rectal thermometer.
Use as directed and follow with a taste...
Don't listen to those guys, here it is in four easy steps.
1. Go to music site
2. click on new releases
3. listen to new releases for an hour or two.
4. pay for the only two tracks that were worth a crap.
It's called digging and it's not easy, well physically it's easy, but it's time consuming as hell. :D The first time you see one of the tunes in the selected music sites top 10 a month after you bought it'll give you a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
You can also find podcasts or mixes on one of the hosting sites like soundcloud or mixcloud with songs you like in them. Chances are there will be more songs you like in them. Hopefully, after about a year you'll have developed a pretty good sense of what's good and have the makings of a nice music library.
Stay away from the blogs with all the free downloads. You'll start downloading songs of questionable quality thinking maybe you'll play that sometime. Chances are you never will and it'll just fill up your hard drive. Paying for your music is the first step to really knowing and understanding your music.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by photojojo
Playing all the "hot" tracks will fast track you to having a rep as a crap DJ who just plays all the beatport top 10. Part of being good is caning the hot tracks before they get on a list. It's a fine line, but learn to get respect from the audience, AND your fellow DJ's. When you do, your ready.
Even with all of the digital technology, digging/selecting still is a trait that separates the good DJs from the average.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Paka Ono
Set a few hours aside each week and dig! Find labels and artists u like. Follow them on twitter and facebook. Download free mixes by producers play them in the car or whenever u can and follow up on the songs u like. Most producers will have access to tracks before they come out and incorporate them into those mixes. And when they release them they will announce them on twitter or fb! Well that's how I go about it. Nevermind that top 100 list on BP. But always keep the dance floor in mind!
... I generally use my ears...
But I guess I'm old fashioned.
Pretty sure everyone does it that way. He's asking how to find stuff to listen to. You could actually try to help instead of just trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by exokinetic
Keep in mind, I have alot of friends who try to go with "whats hot" when searching for a set list.
Seemingly the internet has become overwhelmed with music whose genre is entirely mislabeled.
Its never fun to get on the decks at a party where filth and grime is expected and instead, because of "going with whats hot" , you end up with some fancy sweetish-gay-house music.
Lol no offence to house music or anything, I'm a fan myself. Just be sure to find what YOU are personally after. IMO: alot of music that is becoming accepted by the masses blows.
Not to say there aren't some DAMN good Dj's that are widely adored by the Dubstep community.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ NiteFlite
*pulls the string*
..."The troll says"
"If you can't find your own music, you shouldn't be a DJ"
*pulls the string*
..."The cow says"
"MMMmmmmmooooooooooooo"
Amazingly, this question has been asked and answered on this forum before. Many, many, many times before.
So check out some of those previous threads.
Yea man...
But its SO HARD to find the music that is going to make you a good DJ.
So why not just ask someone who has found it already...
Because your taste is so bland, you cant even decide what you like.
The great thing about being a DJ is YOU get to decide what's hot. That's one of the responsibilities of being a DJ. Don't pass that off onto someone else.
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Nada
I guess thats the one drawback with digital DJing, the abundance of music, yet lack of organization in trying to buy it!
It used to be such a pleasure going down to the local record shops, be handed a bag of 50 newest releases by a shop owner each week who knew exactly what you spin and what you like (or not) and spend the afternoon trawling though every flipside mix before laying out your hard earned cash.
Now its needing to wait on buffering, pages to reload, more pages which link off other pages of stuff completely irrelevant , then waiting on the files to download, then organize them and find album art (or create it) all just feels like an endless chore.
Surely there must be some money in a physical MP3 shop that specializes in digital releases ? A middleman, like the vinyl shops of old who for want of a better word cut out the crap and takes the edge off trying to find the good ones ?
What I always used to do was buy either DJmag or IDJ(in UK) and read the reviews.
Try and spend a few hours a week listening to as much as you can and then make a wish list of say 25-50 tracks.
Then half it. and half it again. You'll end up buying only the stuff that you REALLY like.
That was a tip I picked up from the how to DJ(Properly) book by bill brewster i think it was. Not a bad tip really
I do pretty much the same as this, if it aint hooked me in within the first few bars im moving onQuote:
Originally Posted by padi_04
I was thinking about this over breakfast and how saturated the market has become. It then dawned on me that even though every music site posts new charts monthly, weekly and even daily, there is no possible way anyone can dig through all of them. This is actually a very good thing and quite like digging in the older days.Quote:
Originally Posted by deevey
Dosnt really matter whats hot, read the crowd see what type of people are in and drop what you think(that all apply but i dont do R n B or Chav crap) i get a lot through in promo's (to much infact, been on 8 lists) i have a listen and what i like i play, weather its hot or not lol + not many people have heard them with them been random mixes on promo's. I dont know about anyone else i do it for the love of music and i enjoy it a lot more because i play tunes i like. i lost a residency because the bar was taken over and it was a pure house bar, which was loved, he wanted me to play commercial crap, like lady gaga and kept telling me to turn it down, did i listen, NOPE!!! :D
Just gettin the promo for this tune, with afrojack mixes and that but this bootleg is awsom, take a listen (everone have a listen)
http://www29.zippyshare.com/v/82690870/file.html
I love anything with a sax in :D
i guess its predictable that pretty much everyone on the forum knew i would laugh audibly at this.Quote:
Originally Posted by diezdiazgiant
start with checking out all the new releases at the record store sites, find the artists,labels and genres that appeal to you and take it from there.
if it still doesn't make sense god have mercy on you.
Disagree. This thread seems odd to me in that the reason I became interested in DJing was I always loved just going thru music whatever the format. It just seems like if you think going thru music is a chore maybe this isnt really the hobby for you. Dont let me discourage you just seems like something that needs to be consideredQuote:
Originally Posted by deevey
blogs blogs blogs and warez music blogs/forums
Having a couple gigs of fresh music I haven't listened to yet, that needs to be sorted, diamonds in the rough found, religiously beat-gridded...
...is like a giant Christmas present.
Then maybe I found one or two artists or producers or labels I have never heard of yet, and more research, and present finding ensues...
...a literally endless cycle of consumption, disposal of waste, and polishing the library of music that is an amalgamation of everything that it means to be "Me".
Yeah I have a bunch of artists I have on my beatport list, I listen to podcasts religiously, and then I check out the top 10 of each genre etc.
But really though, if I like the sound of something, I am going to play it. As DJs, don't we determine what is popular? :)
the thing is, for me anyway, it took ages to go through 50 pieces of vinyl in a shop. You have to pull it carefully out of the sleeve, put it on the turntable, needle, etc...play it for a few seconds, then if you don't like it, put it back. Do that x 50 and it's a lot slower than skimming through 50 tracks on beatport.Quote:
Originally Posted by deevey
Secondly, you have a record store guy filtering stuff for you. He might be not giving you tracks that he either doesn't want you to have, or doesn't know you like. Another negative.
Thirdly, the record store itself doesn't pick up everything - so again your range is being filtered and you are missing out on potential gems.
Fourthly!! Vinyl is sooo much more expensive than digital. Assuming you are holding the same standards for both vinyl and digital (and good DJs do :D) you can get 4 x as many tracks on digital as you can on vinyl. I used to pay 25 bucks NZ for vinyl, and maybe one of the sides would suck. For 25 bucks I can get about 11 tracks off Beatport or Juno!! Again...I'm assuming you are still getting really high quality, good music.
At the moment I've got about 8 tracks in my crate in beatport...in the olden days that would cost me a freakin fortune...8 x 25 bucks...argh. I'd have to drop a few for sure. Now...I can get em all :) And they are all good too. I've listened to each one about 10 x each to make sure I like them. Again...you can't do this in the shop, not enough time! You'd have to sit there all day.
As you can tell I like digital shopping :P
Forgot to make my point... lol.
I agree with your point that without the middle man in the form of the record store, there is a lot more crap. But once you have setup a good system, using artist and label favourites for example on beatport's website, you can begin increasing increasing your hit rate. You still need to dig, but like everything, practice makes perfect!
I totally agree dj's can decide whats hot, If you enjoy it and your mixes are tight then its all good + when you find tunes you love and they arnt commercially hot, people will come up and ask what it was or they will remember your set the next day due to the tunes they heard you drop. But theres no harm in pointing people in the right direction, not all dj's got where they are today without asking a few people for help :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DJ Nada
+ dont follow all the top tens on download sites because theres no passion in that.
You should come and try my internet connection sometime :PQuote:
the thing is, for me anyway, it took ages to go through 50 pieces of vinyl in a shop. You have to pull it carefully out of the sleeve, put it on the turntable, needle, etc...play it for a few seconds, then if you don't like it, put it back. Do that x 50 and it's a lot slower than skimming through 50 tracks on beatport.
I just don't "enjoy" shopping for music online the same way and feel I put much more thought into what I might, would, could or couldn't play on vinyl, having to wait for the download etc.... maybe I'm just weird :D
But damn dude, $25 per vinyl .. thats crazy money $10 was my average + you had the remixes / EP tracks to factor in as well as a nice lump of 12' goodness to cuddle. All things considered, price of pressing, printing, distribution fee's, rental ... vinyl isn't priced that badly.
It's as much a DJ's job to MAKE something new be hot as to play something already hot.
Gentleman,
Thank you for all the help.
Essentially, I've picked up on a lot of artists that I love, and that's what I've been mixing my demos to. What I didn't want to do though was show up to my first major gig with everyone looking at me going, "who the heck is Arty?"
So, I'm doing exactly what I need to be, but I needed to make sure I wasn't just being a total noob.
Anyways, thank you guys for your replies.
when you get tired of that find a remixed track you like --> click on the remixer --> listen to all his/her music --> click on also the record labels of said singles --> keep diggingQuote:
Originally Posted by photojojo
Once you start digging on a place like beatport, it becomes one of your favortie things to do.