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Hey guys, just wondering if anyone currently uses a USB hub during their gigs. I've had my eye on this one, as I'm going to have a few controllers (eek), external hard drive and just want some room for other stuff if necessary.
Was just wondering if there were any Do's or Don't when looking to purchase these. Much thanks in advance!
I use a D-Link powered hub. Just try to get a hub with it's own external power source. Some devices such as HDD and USB Mixers like a lotta juice. I couldn't tell if it had a power supply, but I did like that top load.
The main issue with latency from a USB hub is how many translators it has, without getting too technical some USB hubs have one translator for all 4 ports, this is what will introduce latency to your system.
Good usb hubs will have one translator per port, these hubs offer the best performance.
Unfortunatley most places wont let you pull apart a product to check which chipset is uses before buying i.
awesome, thanks for the response guys!
Maybe people here (Including me) can make a list of the "good" hubs for reference before buying stuff :)Quote:
Originally Posted by midifidler
thanks, nemo! thoughts on this one?: http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Hi-Spee...927855&sr=8-11
We would certainly like to hear which are the good ones !Quote:
Originally Posted by nemo
just to bring up this thread again,
does anyone have a suggestion for a nice, fast, powered USB hub??? Cheers!
Hi guys,
I'm using this logitech hub: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/no.../3048&cl=fr,fr
with an external adapter for gigs or not when at home.
I can't feel any latency at all, it really works good for me.
Very nicely build (solid and compact, with case =) )
And i don't work for them haha
Fatlimey mentioned another good one in a thread but i cant seem to find it - if anyone can find it ill put it in the FAQ
This is the one - a multi TT hub.
http://www.compusb.com/usb207pohubw.html
Just the information I needed thanks for the reccommendations :)
I'd Just like to say that I recently returned the Macally TRIHUB7 USB port because it doesn't work with the Vestax VCI-100SE and it certainly doesn't work with any USB soundcard.
just ordered the same one. Called my friend who is working at logitech to ask about the converter. He told me there was one converter per usb slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by osoner
Swiss quality! YAY!
Thanks for mentioning that - this was the one I was thinking about getting. What did you end up going with?Quote:
Originally Posted by nudearchitect
Just did a little research. Here's a great article explaining the design and performance differences of both a single tt and a multi tt hub. They also ran benchmarks. What really sucks is both of my hubs use the same stupid single tt gl850a chipsets. (just opened and checked) And I'm sure that's why i sometimes have problems w/ my vci (w/ ac adapter) and audio 8 on the same hub. I guess I'm going shopping.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ology,677.html
Trying to do some research to see if it's single or multiple TT, but I've been using this one for a while now. http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=377068
I like it because it's 7-port but has the detachable section that is a portable non-powered 4 port hub which is great if I'm using/programming just my controllers I can just grab it off and take it with me. While the base is powered the 4-port portable hub is not, but can still power my 3 Nanos and my PadKontrol with no problem at all and no latency that I can feel.
Well true tuna, I just ripped open the 3rd usb hub I've owned. The third I own is a Belkin, slightly different looking version of yours, and it's chipset is a GL850G. Still a single TT chip. So, here's the stackup of hubs i own: Macally 4port i own Uses a Genesys Logic GL850A as well as my Vantec 4port. The
Belkin uses a different revision (hence the G) of the chipset but still very similar design. I assume the differences are a smaller manufacturing process. I am assuming this is a popular chipset for manufactures.
Came across an insightful thread on this (follow the links to the related threads as well):
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/...m/802007017831
From that, it suggests that there is only one Belkin Multi-TT Hub, the TetraHub 4-Port. The 7-Port version of that even doesn't sound confirmed.
I think we are up to 3 confirmed Multi-TT hubs now?
Belkin TetraHub 4-Port
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F5U231-.../dp/B0000DC662
Cables Unlimited 7-Port
http://www.compusb.com/usb207pohubw.html
LinXcel 4-Port
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ogy,677-5.html
Thanks for that contribution drc :)
Strnge just found this thread, on my way to buying a second Hub, the first one is the above mentioned and itīs working just fine in my enviroment.Quote:
Originally Posted by nudearchitect
Mac Book Pro, VCI 100 recently updated too 1.3, Audio 2 Dj, Korg Nano Pad and i even had an old Oxygen all pluged to that hub no noticable latency or prblms whatsoever.
I just ordered the Cables Unlimited USB hub... the Multi TT one... I was going to get the Logitech one, but it doesn't come with the power adapter, which is really stupid in my opinion. Anyway, got the Cables unlimited one for only $20 and that uncluded shipping...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...5J8LR&v=glance
This post is very helpful. Now I just have to decide which one to get.
The only one I could find was the Cables Unlimited. I don't need 7 ports, but it works like a charm.
Phil.
I have the Cables Unlimited 7-port one too, and my VCI won't power up either.
Can anyone confirm that your VCI-100 powers up fine off this hub? If so, could you describe *precisely* what your setup looks like? Do you use the exrenal power? What's your Host Computer? Does the VCI power up if your Host is not connected, just the Hub? Did you replace the default USB cables?
If we have some verified successes we'll have to investigate that a little further.
Fatlimey,
Look at my sig for configuration, VCI-100 and Oxy 25 through the Cable Unlimited (powered with the included PS). I haven't tried it unpowered.
As for USB cables, I have tried a few as I was choosing the right lengths and none had issues. Both the VCI and Oxy 25 seem to get work well with just about any cable. The cable from the hub to the Mac is the one that came with the VCI (I don't like those see thru cables that came with the hub).
I have not run my soundacrd through it, nor do I intend to try.
And finally , the VCI lights stay on if I unplug the Mac from the hub (hub powered by PS).
Hope this helps, Phil.
I know most of these say they are compatible with windows os but i noticed most of you have mac os... looking at your sigs... so there is not problem with them used on a mac right?
+1 to this thread. could've used all this knowledge before i blew 15 bucks at target. ahh well.. that's what receipts are for!
quick question,
would anyone know how it would work if i used a mac keboard that has the two usb slots on it to power my vci 100 and just put my soundcard to the second usb slot in my 15 inch mbp.
I got myself a Targus 7 port USB2 hub (Powered if needed).
Seems to work fine for me.
I need better cables tho.
I have an Acer aspire 5515 and it only has two usb ports, so i bought the cables unlimited hub, and every time I plug in my vci-100 into the hub it errors, device unrecognized, when i plug in my sound card, fastrack pro, I get noise in my headphones when I use the cue function, loud static like noise.
If I by pass the hub and plug in these devices directly, everything works fine, but I would really like to get this hub to work as i would like to add more music by way of an external hard drive.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Maybe update the drivers?
Yes i do have the latest drivers for the FTP
as for the VCI only thing I saw on their website was drivers for the vci 100 mk II, I have the original vci.
In light of upgrading my whole system, just ordered the Cables Unlimited Hub. It's gotta power an X1, RigKontrol, Dicers, a padKontrol, and possibly more, so let's see how it does!
Tretuna, let me know how it works out for you, that's the one I have..it's not working for me, hope you have better luck with it.
So I got the hub in... Works pretty nicely with Rig Kontrol 3, X1, Dicers, PadKontrol, and even a hard drive plugged in.
I'm using this Belkin hub: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-4-Port-Ultra-Mini-F5U407/dp/B000Q8UAWY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1308725016&sr =1-1"]Amazon.com: Belkin USB 2.0 4-Port Ultra Mini Hub F5U407: Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31pqzo5bE8L.@@AMEPARAM@@31pqzo5bE8L[/ame]
No external power sources; and so far it's working well. I'd been having problems for ages with my Midi Fighter latency until I figured out my USB 3.0 port wasn't agreeing with it. Once I got the hub everything has been cash. It's enough to handle my Akai LPD8, Midi fighter, and my mouse with little to no latency (none that I can detect).
I'm not sure how it will fare with vci-100's or s4's, but it works well for my controllers.
BE WARNED: It doesn't seem to like my Audio 2 DJ soundcard, so I'm running that through it's own dedicated USB computer port- maybe a powered hub would work better?
The Cables Unlimited hub is a beast, and has worked well with everything I've thrown at it. If you're still having issues when using it, you might want to check your USB cables as well.
If you're more adventurous, you might even put a fluke across pins 1 and 4 and see if the hub might be defective and providing less than optimal power.