Hi,
I am very new to this and i would like to build up a setup to start mixing. Should i start with S4 as a beginner or not. Is there any other equipments that might be more easy to use as a beginner.
Thank you :)
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Hi,
I am very new to this and i would like to build up a setup to start mixing. Should i start with S4 as a beginner or not. Is there any other equipments that might be more easy to use as a beginner.
Thank you :)
I'm usually of the mindset that people should spend more money early to get better equipment so they don't need to upgrade later.
The S4 is a large investment. I mean, my first investment was two cheapo CD decks and a $15 mixer off of ebay. I think it might make more sense to start just with Traktor Pro and see if the S4 is something you'd want to invest in. If you aren't going to like the software then the controller isn't going to make much of a difference, y'know?
I'm just wary pointing anyone at a $900 investment in something they might not even want to use.
But i need a controller right ? Traktor Pro is not only the software ?
I think S4 was tailor made for beginners. If you don't like it you can sell the whole package later on.
You can use Traktor without a controller. You can use it with just a keyboard and mouse and have a pretty solid amount of functionality.
Why not?
Very true and i love posting this video cause it shows you can rock with just a keyboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by DvlsAdvct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tn9E...layer_embedded
Do i need to get a sound card , extra wires and stuff like that if i get S4 or its only plug and play in the computer ?
Just going to need cables to your speakers.
What about the Vestax VCI-100 SE or Arcade ? Maybe less expensive ?
The VCI-100 Arcade edition is the same price as an open box S4, and you'd need to buy a sound card as well.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by photojojo
If you can afford it. What you loose in the resale would probably be about as much as traktor pro on its own...
You could download the traktor pro demo to get a taste of it though. If you like that then take the plunge :)
thisQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxOne
or download something like Mixxx to get the feel without the whole 'demo' stopping after a half hour :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOne
I used the 30 minutes , its pretty decent , but seriously i need a controller :P , imo there's no way of having fun without a hardware.
This is what it boils down to for me. Are you sure you're really interested in DJing? If you are, then just make the investment and buy an S4. If you're still on the fence, go down to Guitar Center and mess around with different MIDI controllers.Quote:
Originally Posted by skz
Also with the new Novation controller coming out that may be a better choice for you if you don't play hip hop and don't really want to scratch. It's far cheaper (almost 50% off) and honestly doesn't look too shabby aside from the jog wheels not being there.
It's a large investment, but in the end it's worth it. Just a heads up, this addiction is a huge money hungry never ending pit. I started DJing in October, and I have spent over $4,000 on DJ / production equipment.
Coldfuzion went all in!! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
That's what she said as her face turned to -> :eek: -> :o.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Can i go with a Numark controller that worth approx. 200$ ? or i will want to upgrade as soon as i control every functions ?
Mainly due to to advice from this forum I went all out with an S4 as a complete novice. Probably one of the beat investments I have made,
The new Novation Twitch looks 100x cooler than a S4 if you ask me.
Thing is, you have to take into account what you are using the respective controllers for, what genre you're playing, and what your style is like.Quote:
Originally Posted by tyfurious
Edited: Didn't realize you were speaking strictly on looks.
I think its a better choice then my first setup.. Numark "CD DJ in a box" = lolzzz
Questions I asked myself 6 months ago was "is this a hobby, or a passion? just for fun or do I want to create music/mixes?" this helped me set my budget.
I quickly learned that mixing isn't just the ability to "controlling every function". To make great music/mixes there is a lot to it (more then I even wanted there to be) lol. Word of advice if I can give you any, before you make your purchase... obsessively research and read. A lot of the other members on this board give great advice. While it is a great hobby, it gets addictive and expensive.
6 months into it and $2,000 later I finally have a setup I feel comfortable with..... for now :D. GL to ya!
Oh yea, I think the S4 will be a much sturdier and reliable controller, no less the ability the use inputs. But, on that note, if I was thinking for myself I would say the Twitch is a better controller, but then again that is just for me and my style :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
Wow that's interesting ! I know that people that start are getting addicted very fast. I mean i got a job that gives me plenty of time to do things, i really want to get into it. Thank you for all of your advice :D
I would like to be able to mix hip hop beat tracks with some cool and weird effects. House and techno music are annoying after a couple of hoursQuote:
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
When I first started, I was just using the keyboard with VDJ. The more I learned, the more I wanted to do, and the more I needed free hands. So I bought the Numark Total Control. I think that thing is great. Has helped me a lot and I've learned a lot more now since I've had it, but honestly, now I need more buttons/knobs because there is more that I want to do. I'm eventually going to get the S4, but if you dont have the money to drop on it right now, buy something a little cheaper. I bought my TC on eBay for $100. Bought the NI Audio 2 from best buy ($100), and got some Sony headphones ($50). I spent around $250-270 (taxes), and I like my setup, a lot. It helped get me started, but now I wish I had more. It's a process I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by skz
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by skz
-10??Quote:
Originally Posted by killerfanatics
:p
= -9....?Quote:
Originally Posted by m00n
Well atleast you can do simple math, now we just need to work on you ear problem.. haha, jk jk jkQuote:
Originally Posted by killerfanatics
(im a newb, be easy please.:o
+ (-10)Quote:
Originally Posted by m00n
That actually made laugh. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by m00n
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Originally Posted by tyfurious
damnit.. you're right. Sorry the redneck in me was coming out.
lol, sorry for the hijack..
I LOVE my S4/X1 combo..
If you choose to mix hip hop then i'm sure you will want to scratch. It's what we do. Effects are available from pretty much everything these days, however the S4 and Traktor software provides the most amount of effects I believe. From what you're saying the best suggestion I can give you is pick up something like the S4, or if you want to maintain a lower budget maybe a VCI (non arcade).Quote:
Originally Posted by skz
I'd still go with the S4 though. In the end it's worth it. In the beginning it is too.
It depends on your budget mainly .
And since I'm not a controller fan I will suggest you players / mixer combination .After that it is about music you play . If you are into house/progressive house I'd go with some basic mixer ( lets say djm 400 ) and 2x cdj 100 to master the beatmatching . if it's rnb / hip hop just get traktor / ssl on top of that.
Nice to have a variety :). Great thing about forums like this is to hear everyone's opinion, especially the type of DJs that differ from you. Getting advice from the best of both worlds! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny V
Oh, I wasn't correcting you, I was adding an additional -10. I agreed with ya :pQuote:
Originally Posted by m00n
Sounds like a candidate for the NS7, nice platters you can actually get down with.