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Hey techtools.
I am about to buy a Macbook Pro and i'm heavily considering the 15" version primarily because of the bigger screen. But do you need the 15" or is the 13" just fine? And what about the processor? Will the 13" handle traktor and ableton at the same time perfectly?
Thank you!
I'd say get the 15".. Rather have too big of a screen then too small. And i know for a fact the 13" is too small for me.
depends on the person. I've had 13" laptops for the last 5 years and I love the portability. It's absolutely fine for everything i do including traktor, but at home I do sometimes plug it into a bigger external monitor.
I've never had a bigger laptop cos i hate the idea of carry one around, but I know a lot of people wouldn't dream of going smaller than 15" so as I say, it's personal preference. Go to an apple store and try them out.
Performance wise, no MBP that you can buy new today will struggle with traktor and ableton. (I know, because mine doesn't and it's 2 years old lol).
I think the 13" screen is too big…I wish they'd bring back the 12" non-widescreen format of the last powerbooks. But…I realize I'm weird.
Use what you're comfortable with. I'd honestly rather use reading glasses than a laptop that I think is too big…but–again–I'm weird.
As for processing power…you can max out a Mac Pro with Live if you're dumb and ask it to do too much. How big is the difference between processors? A bit of a bump in clock speed…on the base models? Who cares. Besides, the 13" i7 is actually a faster processor than they currently offer in the 15" models anyway.
Get the size you want…if you're worried about processor, get the faster model. I say don't worry about it, though…my 2.16 c2duo from 2008 will run Ableton and Traktor together just fine as long as I don't do anything dumb…and Live with the wrong synth patches will cause it to hang by themselves (they have to be pretty ridiculous)…it's more about not being an idiot with what you're telling it to do than it is about one machine actually being better than another.
As far as running Ableton and Traktor together, I think that the limiting factor is the number of screens…not necessarily the size. I hate cmd-tabbing between applications, and even the 17" screen isn't big enough to show both of them at the same time without some UI hacks. If I were running those systems together, I'd honestly just get either an external monitor or 2 13" MBPs and be done with it.
After using 12'/13' laptops for over 12 years (since the ibook toiletseat-AKA clamshell) I'd go with the 15' if you have the $$ especially for Ableton
Bigger screen = head an extra 3' away from laptop = More crowd connection and less eyestrain.
There's really only just over 1' difference in size and weight feels almost the same and i'll def be getting one next time round.
@mostapha - Yes you are weird :D, reading glasses seriously :P
Why not use a "spaces" window for each app ?Quote:
I hate cmd-tabbing between applications
On a related note, what about the 17? Is it really that hard to lug about?
I think so... I mean it's not murder, but it's definitely noticeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
It's more screen real estate that is really needed imo for playing out and at home I have a 32" monitor but that's more for video editing etc.
I never thought it was "That" heavy and certainly when compared to other 17' laptops its just beautiful in comparison... if you're going to use the realestate I'd say well worth it, just bloody expensive.
Then again i'm the guy who really doesn't give a crap how heavy or big something is so long as it performs.
(Maybe i'm just weird :p)
Not true my friend the 15" has the i7 as well not to mention its 2.0 or 2.2 quad core where as the 13 is 2.7 dualQuote:
Originally Posted by mostapha
I would go with the 15 and just replace the ram and hard drive save some cash and that way you get to keep your original ram and original hard drive. plus your warranty does not void as I have been informed by a mac rep if you replace them your self
Same here. I LOVE my 17", although now anything smaller just looks, small.. I don't mind the size, and like he said, compared to any other 17" laptop ive seen my MBP looks like a supermodel in a body building contest, just slim and sexy vs big and bulky..Quote:
Originally Posted by deevey
Thanks everybody! I think i will take the 15" because of the power.. But still.. The money i can save on 13" is attractive. I can get 5 midifighters if i just buy the 13":eek:
not if you want buttons lol.
@MC LEAN, I thought the 13" models all had quad core i7s now as well?
I have a late 13" 2008 MB (aka Penryn) model @ 2.4ghz with 2gb of RAM and I LOVE it. Even at the these specs the S4 and X1 dont give me any problems. I do plan on upgrading to 4gb later on, but thats just precautionary. I do want to make mention if you do go with a 13" MB (non-pro) you will have to have a late 2008 or above model to be able expand the RAM beyond 2gbs.
As far as screen Real-estate, it really depends on how you like traktor to be set up. I run a few layouts for different things. Hiding certain parts of Traktor can give you back some size in the more important parts... ie: Hiding global settings, running an essential layout (gives you one line of track info, but gives you a nice chunky wave form... probably much nicer on a 15" screen lol)
GL! and its true... once you go mac you never go back!
I make my own midi fighter buttons out of a toaster. That way i save money.
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Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Well kind of.....see you can get the 13" at 2.7 ghz with dual core i7 or the 13" at 2.3ghz with dual core i5. SO to answer your question, technically yes you can get the i7 with the 13" but it won't be quad core unfortunately.
bummer for us trying to save coin.
I just bought my 15' and got the student discount because I am going to school in the fall and saved like $250 bucks. stoked.You can totally bullshit them and tell them your going to school and save i suggest doing so.
My dad work at the university.. so i get the discount ;-)