Deck Focus mapping help

I am a beginner when it comes to controller mapping so if this is stupid question, please let me know. I have searched the forums but have been unable to find this specific piece of advice. So what I am wondering is how to set a single button on an MF classic to toggle between decks A & B. I have found the deck focus control and mapped it to a button, but it cycles through all 4 decks TSP2. I know this is possible, as I've seen the DJTT sponsored maps that are focused on AB and ABCD.

On an unrelated note, is there somewhere where there are a lot of tutorials videos or articles about controller mapping for traktor? I haven't seen something like this yet in my searching of google, youtube & djtt, but I've only started looking a couple weeks ago.

Thanks,

2Hearts

Get the Traktor 2 Bible, it is by far the most-definitive guide on mappings out there. There's like a hundred pages devoted to mappings, with examples for different hardware (S4, CDJs, DJMs, etc...) and examples on how to create multi-modifiers and combo mappings.

On the cheaper side, the website for the book, http://traktorbible.com/, does have some videos to help specific types of mappings.

If you want to dig into mappings, it IS the book to read (and no, I don't work for the publisher or anything, just a bloke who bought it and continues to learn more each day I reference it)

I bind deck focus to load deck, saves a lot of time, buts its a pain to map.

To do this:
Load Selected>Assignment="Deck">Mapped To "Button"
(Type Of Controller=Button , Interaction Mode=Trigger)

Deck Focus Select>Assignment=Global>Mode=Direct>Mapped To "Button"
(Type Of Controller=Button , Interaction Mode=Direct)

You need to set up a modifier on the same button. An example setup would be like this (all on the same button)...

If M1=0, M1 Direct to 1
If M1=1, M1 Direct to 0
If M1=0, Deck Focus Direct to B
If M1=1, Deck Focus Direct to A

It's a little shorthand, but if you have the command you're looking for already, I figured I don't need to spell it out completely for you. If you need a little more detail than that though, I'll be glad to give it. :) Good luck!

you dont need to use modifiers as traktor only focuses on one deck at a time. same principle for cue monitor.

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Originally Posted by Jester.NZ

you dont need to use modifiers as traktor only focuses on one deck at a time. same principle for cue monitor.

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If switching between all 4 decks is what you're going for, no modifiers are needed. However, a simple inc/dec command wouldn't work if you only want to toggle between A&B. Traktor needs a reference point. M1 being either 0 or 1 (or more, if you wanted 3, or 4 decks) is that reference.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2791/image000zc.png

Deck focus mapped to same button

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1354/image001bl.png

no modifiers used.

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Originally Posted by echo.ranger

and no, I don't work for the publisher or anything, just a bloke who bought it and continues to learn more each day I reference it)

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And i thank you on behalf of Rainer (author) and myself (Editor) of Traktor Bible for your support:)



Also, i think some of you guys misunderstood what the OP wants.
He wants 1 button to toggle focus from Deck A to B to A to B without it cycling thru decks C & D which it will even if those decks are not shown/used.

Also he isnt seeking any load functions.

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Originally Posted by Jester.NZ

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2791/image000zc.png

Deck focus mapped to same button

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1354/image001bl.png

no modifiers used.

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I understand that you don't need modifiers to load to selected decks (since as you mentioned, only one is selected at a time) Also, you're right that no modifiers are used if each button choses which deck is selected. HOWEVER, using ONE button to toggle the focus from A>B and B>A, is NOT doable without the use of modifiers. The original question states nothing to do with loading tracks; simply how to toggle focus from A>B and back. If I'm reading this wrong (DJ2Hearts), please let me know. However, I'm fairly positive I understand the question, and feel I've answered it the right way. Maybe Karlos could shed some light on this, being the resident trusted expert...

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Originally Posted by DJ_dB

Maybe Karlos could shed some light on this, being the resident trusted expert...

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Actually this can be done with just one command.

Browser > Toggle Last Focus.


I dont have a controller in front of me so i just assigned it to a Keyboard button:
Global Assignment
Type Of Controller : Button
Interaction Mode : Trigger

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Originally Posted by Karlos Santos

Actually this can be done with just one command.

Browser > Toggle Last Focus.


I dont have a controller in front of me so i just assigned it to a Keyboard button:
Global Assignment
Type Of Controller : Button
Interaction Mode : Trigger

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Maybe adding a direct to deck A in case you get on C or D somehow.

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Originally Posted by photojojo

Maybe adding a direct to deck A in case you get on C or D somehow.

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Doesn't seem like the safest way to do it to me. Yes, that works from first open, but there are plenty of times when I find my deck focus changing on me. (accidentally clicking, loading with the mouse to sample decks changes focus, etc)

I dont see the issue.
If you play your first track from either A or B it will always toggle back to A or B hence the name Toggle Last Focus.

If you on the wrong deck somehow accidently, its just pressing one buttom to get on the right focus.

K.I.S.S :-)

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Originally Posted by Karlos Santos

I dont see the issue.
If you play your first track from either A or B it will always toggle back to A or B hence the name Toggle Last Focus.

If you on the wrong deck somehow accidently, its just pressing one buttom to get on the right focus.

K.I.S.S :-)

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That would defeat the purpose of getting it all to work on only 1 button. And if by chance you accidentally got to focus on C or D, you would not only need to refocus onto A, you would also need to focus on B next, so that the TOGGLE, went between those two. If 2 buttons were available, hell, make them Direct A and Direct B. No Modifiers. No fixing. Otherwise, I'm still going to stand by the modifier method, as it's what I've been using. Also the modifier sets grounds for tasks such as turning FX Units on/off in the mixer in relation to deck focus, since "Deck Focus Is:X" isn't a modifier condition. (As a side note, this method is used in DJTT's MF Deckalized Focus Mapping, if anyone has been questioning it's validity.)

No, thats exactly the reason to use it on one button. Have you tried it?

But just a minute dude. The OP said he uses decks A & B.
The Toggle Last Focus will not select Decks C & D if they are not shown and thus not accidently used.

Remember we are referring to the OPs question NOT what you use or what decks you use or what mapping you use. We are answering the OPs question.

The OP specifically states Decks A & B and my solution is perfect for that use.

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Originally Posted by Karlos Santos

No, thats exactly the reason to use it on one button. Have you tried it?

But just a minute dude. The OP said he uses decks A & B.
The Toggle Last Focus will not select Decks C & D if they are not shown and thus not accidently used.

Remember we are referring to the OPs question NOT what you use or what decks you use or what mapping you use. We are answering the OPs question.

The OP specifically states Decks A & B and my solution is perfect for that use.

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Completely valid. If there's no way that C&D could accidentally be selected, you're solution is perfect. Haha. Agreed, I'm making this a little harder than it needs to be. I was giving some room for the fact that C&D may be sample decks (totally logical reason to make another controller only focus on A&B. It's the reason I did it, after all.) But you are right, that wasn't mentioned, and thus your solution is the "KISS" method.

To be truly honest, i started mapping your modifier solution last nite before i remembered the Toggle Focus command...:p

Sometimes we over think things cus we can !!!!

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Originally Posted by Karlos Santos

To be truly honest, i started mapping your modifier solution last nite before i remembered the Toggle Focus command...:p

Sometimes we over think things cus we can !!!!

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Well since we're being honest, it's not MY solution. As I said, I found it by going through the DJTT Deckalized Focus Mapping. (They use INC and RESET instead of DIRECT, but it's the same premise.)

And again, it wouldn't necessarily be over-thinking if you were to use it to do things such as turn on the desired FX on the Deck in Focus, and Off for all other Decks. (Straight outta the same mapping.)

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Originally Posted by Karlos Santos

Actually this can be done with just one command.

Browser > Toggle Last Focus.


I dont have a controller in front of me so i just assigned it to a Keyboard button:
Global Assignment
Type Of Controller : Button
Interaction Mode : Trigger

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As an edit to this: In 2.1.1, It's under Layout, not Browser. Not sure if that was a typo or version difference.

Well spotted. Typo.

Wow, thank you so much to all of you who have replied. I have been busy with work so I haven't had a chance to try any of these solutions out yet, but I am eagerly awaiting a chance to do so. However, I didn't mean to stir up so much controversy, but I'm glad it came to a peaceful resolution. I do want to weigh in on dj db's side though, as we all know, shit happens. I think that's all he was saying in terms of preparing a mapping for the worst case scenario such as changing deck focus by mouse and having the last deck toggle send you back and forth between one right deck and one wrong deck. From my brief time programming java in college, I believe this is called "error catching", and it's good to have in every type of program. Thanks again though, to everybody, and I will get back to you soon with the results.

Also, I'm gonna get the Traktor bible soon, but I was just looking for a shorter term solution to this specific problem so I can practice.

:p

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Originally Posted by DJ2Hearts

Wow, thank you so much to all of you who have replied. I have been busy with work so I haven't had a chance to try any of these solutions out yet, but I am eagerly awaiting a chance to do so. However, I didn't mean to stir up so much controversy, but I'm glad it came to a peaceful resolution. I do want to weigh in on dj db's side though, as we all know, shit happens. I think that's all he was saying in terms of preparing a mapping for the worst case scenario such as changing deck focus by mouse and having the last deck toggle send you back and forth between one right deck and one wrong deck. From my brief time programming java in college, I believe this is called "error catching", and it's good to have in every type of program. Thanks again though, to everybody, and I will get back to you soon with the results.

Also, I'm gonna get the Traktor bible soon, but I was just looking for a shorter term solution to this specific problem so I can practice.

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Nah, no controversy here. haha. But as I said, I would have to agree with the toggle solution if you're confident you'll never use (and hide) C&D.

So, eventually, I would love to be able to use the sample decks just to have a couple different samples loaded into each side and have the third row
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XXXX
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be two samples on each C & D (drops, sirens w/e). And to clarify, I'm building this off the slicer map that was put up on the blog a few days ago, cause I nearly pooped myself when I saw that on serato, and thought it would be incredible with Traktor. Mapping those four to play samples I think I know how to do just fine, as there is no changing with the deck focus. But, db, if as mentioned, you could elaborate slightly on the modifier method for the AB toggle that would be awesome, as I have no idea what you meant. I am still totally a novice when it comes to programming in Traktor.

Gracias.

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Originally Posted by DJ_dB

You need to set up a modifier on the same button. An example setup would be like this (all on the same button)...

If M1=0, M1 Direct to 1
If M1=1, M1 Direct to 0
If M1=0, Deck Focus Direct to B
If M1=1, Deck Focus Direct to A

It's a little shorthand, but if you have the command you're looking for already, I figured I don't need to spell it out completely for you. If you need a little more detail than that though, I'll be glad to give it. :) Good luck!

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Well since you say you'll eventually be moving towards using C&D for samples, I'll go back to this method (not the toggle), expanded out a bit...(sorry karlos. haha.)

Add in:

• Modifier>Modifier #1; Modifier Condition- M1=0, Type of Controller-Button, Interaction Mode- Direct, set to value 1
• Modifier>Modifier #1; Modifier Condition- M1=1, Type of Controller-Button, Interaction Mode- Direct, set to value 0
• Layout>Deck Focus Select; Modifier Condition- M1=0, Type of Controller-Button, Interaction Mode- Direct, set to Deck A
• Layout>Deck Focus Select; Modifier Condition- M1=1, Type of Controller-Button, Interaction Mode- Direct, set to Deck B

Map all of the above to the same button.

WOW! Thank you so much. It might have taken me years to figure that out on my own. Plus, it has given me insight as to how the programming works on this interface. Much love.

I have uploaded the map on here now, but keep in mind that you need to follow the instructions here:

http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/11/0...heory-for-djs/

to get it to work. I'm using the MidiPipe program that they suggest, but ya'll can do w/e.

My mapping works the same as theirs, except the top right button is toggle decks A & B, the button to the left of that is beat sync, and in the third row, the left most two buttons are trigger samples 3.1 & 3.2, and the right most buttons are trigger samples 4.1 & 4.2.

Thats what we call "Moving the goal posts".

Nice mapping though and exactly what i was doing before i chose the toggle (on the original brief;)) Props.