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I was just trying to Beatgrid a tune by Robert Hood and the song seems to be ok, but then about 2-3 minutes in , the tempo speeds up or a bad edit, and all the grid lines fall out of time.. What does one do with weird tunes like these...or just dj them in the old way?
In Traktor 3.3 i had a track which had a break which was somewhat out of sync which could be solved by adding another grid marker. But i think that there is no option for tracks with changing tempo.
Rather the track was ripped off vinyl or it was made that way - theres a couple ways around it you can use more beatgrid markers or you can send it though Ableton and warp it so its all the same tempo then take it back into Traktor so you can beatgrid with just a single grid marker.
I'm a little confused on what I would do with this file after it would be warped in Live? Export it? Most my tunes are 320 wavs..I hate to lose quality.
Are you thinking warp wavs and export them as they have been beatmapped? Thanks Bento:)
hmm this "warping" thingy seems nice. I'm not ableton person, so is there simple way to learn it from a guide, or can you spot more apps that can fit the criteria?Quote:
Originally Posted by BentoSan
that would be epic, coz i right now see the great possibility of warping my whole old reggae collection into realy sick mixes (instead of lame trainwreck fests)...
if the songa has tempo change on purpose it makes no sense to warp it. the reason why a song should be warped is when its played in live like funk or old disco stuff. i used to se ableton for this but then i ended up with wav files without tags. now im going with torq, because its my dj system of choice and it does the same thing without modifying the file itself.
on the other hand if your song has a tempochange on purpose it makes no sence to warp it because 1. it will sound shit and 2. it ruins the song :)
usually songs that have a tempochange on purpose (you find this a lot in fidget electro house songs that remix old hiphop classics) going down to an original songs bpm and then speeding up to the electro speed. so 120 - 95 - 120 what you do is just wait for the transition until the song is back at 120 again. all the beatgrids should be on time again.
ah and you cant go wrong with manual beatmatching :)
You cant say all tracks sound "crap" warped, some do some dont, theres no set rules for if something going to sound crap or not when you warp it. Some tracks warping isnt going to sound nice while others will work really well with warping. To warp or not to warp should be judged on a case to case basis, dramatic tempo changes wont sound that great warped while minor changes you will hardly notice.
nah bento you got me wrong, what i was trying to say was: if you warp a song which has a tempo change on purpose (like those electro hiphop remixes) it sounds crap if you warp them.
But if you have a funk song or disco classig which is just not on time during the whole song it usually unnoticable if you warp it. EXCEPT james browns sex machine.... i dont know what schema this song is following haha :) ??? triplets :)???
well, you got me hooked with that line... i recorded some of my old reggae 7-inches, but they're sounding kinda crap (as i recorded them with some reeeeally old belt-drive TT's - they simply suck :) )...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kupujte_Pytle
could anyone of you explain what steps to follow to warp a song and export it back into traktor? i'd love to get my old vinyls digitalized, but only if the tempo is right on spot :)
nice tut video, thanks KLOSELINE - but how do i save the tracks after warping so that i can import them back into traktor?
I am trying and was ok in Live, but dunno..think one has to use Wavs/AIFF's in this case as exporting a mp3 to wav and then compressing it again, would lose sound quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morbido
I was trying to see if I could get mulitiple beatgrids in Traktor Pro, but could not seem to figure it out.
I have a older tune in my collection I was just trying.."Big Fun" Inner City..
Starts off good and about 3 minutes down the track it falls off tempo and nothing can help it..Maybe a edit or fluctuation in the track from record..??
Maybe Traktor 3.4 is better for this?
The problem with warping songs is that you lose the lower frequencies if the warping is too dramatic. Same as using key lock in DJ software.
But for cases like these IMO it would be very subtle.
check out youtube mate, there are PLENTY of ableton warping guides on there. they are all pretty straight forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kupujte_Pytle
josh
thx guys!
still> is there any other program/app that can warp the song??? i just don't have ableton (i can download/hack it, but i don't wanna spoil my clean laptop system and my tabletop just crashed)...