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This was just released in the Netherlands, check out this new Pioneer controller!!!
http://www.xdj-aero.com
WiFi, USB, Rekordbox... Sounds pretty amazing to me, and a price of only €999 (for Pioneer that's a bargain).
However those knobs look plastic and the cue/play buttons look like those on the Ergo... :blink:
Had to share it :w00t:
It says it connects to tablets and smartphones via wifi looks like the laptop is too old for pioneer......:thumbdown:
Also laptop ;-) Native Rekordbox connection, Traktor MIDI and VDJ HID :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by MYE
it looks very toy like
pioneers gear is getting more toyish every year...
Yeah pioneer are going backwards they need to start making more robust and solid controller's that look professional not controllers that have gimmicky things like wifi and flashy lights...... and the knobs and faders don't look very solidQuote:
Originally Posted by calgarc
I don't get who they are marketing towards with this.. Using wifi would be unreliable and €999 is crazy. If it was cheap it would be a fun unit for playing around at home with friends.
I think this is the way of the future TBH and what better way to beta test the functions than in a non-mission-critical setting of a bedroom or studio.Quote:
Originally Posted by MYE
My gut feeling is the next CDJ update will NOT include cd players and this kind of interface is gonna pave the way.
Sure it may look a small bit Toyish (so do CDJ350's and 400's), but consider for a moment - its a completely standalone device at almost the same price as some of the other pricier midi-only controllers out there (vestax/numark).
It Features (from my understanding) a real mixer, sound card, wifi streaming, media player and the most cost effective rekordbox setup you are gonna get in an extremely compact party size package and thats just touching on the good points!.
Only thing I really dislike is the displays though which look like they got pulled from the Gemini's rejects line.
In saying that even if I were touring and needed something reckordbox compatible to fuck around with in my hotel room I'd snap one up.
Dont forget you don't have to use the wi-fi function and my gut says this is some kinda bridge they are working on to make DJ swap overs seamless - no cables to start plugging in or out, just find wifi, hit button and sync your next track with ipad/phone or whatever.
If the Machinery could handle a full track in a buffer (of higher end units), the reliability issue of wifi would be zero anyhow.
I like how you can judge a piece of gear's quality, reliability, and feel, based entirely off of a picture. Do you have some kind of super 3D monitor that let's you touch it?Quote:
Originally Posted by MYE
The Ergo is one of the most solid controllers on the market, just because it has rounded edges, doesn't mean it's a "toy."
Yes I would not use Wifi for gigs but then again it's intended for bedroom DJs to push their content to smart phones and so on. Interesting but expensive bedroom/semi-pro DJ system.
This controller is probably made for those that use cdj-2000's in clubs and need a less expensive solutiom for home-djing.
The wifi makes the aero a great tool for drive in shows and small partys.
Holy Christ almightly. Guys, this is a standalone unit. This thing didn't usher in new technology, this thing just potentially killed every $900-$1000 controller on the market. You know how you'd roll up to a gig with your S4 under your arm, and your laptop in your backpack? Now you don't even need the laptop...
looks interesting. very smart for them to integrate rekordbox into the controller, really lets people organize, practice, then go play out their sets.
I think it will kill off the s4. And also native instruments and other dj companys will have to bring in this wifi connectivity in their next line of controllers to keep up. i think we will see this connectivity in the next 2000's meaning one 2000 is the hub (with a usb stick) and the other one,two or three are the slavesQuote:
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEVnaLDL2VU
Cool video. It gives me a better idea of how all the smartphone and tablet stuff works
Impressive. Price
Videos actually got pretty nice camera work. It looks really imposing at a grand.
i am surprised that it wasn't more expensive rekordbox,new technology and the pioneer logo:lol:
The controller itself isn't really that big of a deal imho, but where they are going with the integration is the next step, one that Native and Serato just missed the boat on. Let me explain :
The more time goes by the more people have tablets and smartphones, or advanced media players ( ala ipod touch ). What Pioneer just gave us is on the go gridding and adjustment to our libraries (00:47 in the video). This is huge, this is something that has been requested or at least talked about by a lot of people. Maybe in a future release (or from the get go) we'll have cue point assignment and other capabilities ( creating fx chains for the rmx-1000 anyone ? ). All that allowing you to listen to your music, sort it, tag it and prepare it for use during our dj sets. And then you consolidate your library at home, and voila no more spending hours in front of your computer at home, you can now do it during downtime at lunch, on the buss, hell go to the park or something.
Next is the wifi/wireless syncing of the music, i'd be weary to use it in a club for now (imagine someone in the crowd has the same app, could it interfere? how about the number of signal coming from all those smartphones, etc...). But i'm sure that given time and releases it's going to be a really big change to the market.
Hell pioneer just saved their asses from the djing software by staying relevant with their (already in place, already in almost all big night clubs and dj riders) overpriced cdj and djm equipment.
I like it !
I think what could have helped as a back up is a connector to the iphone, ipad, samsung galaxy
pioneer's been like a sleeping giant in the controller market and now they're waking up
But wouldn't it have a male A to B usb port and like most controllers do. so you can't connect your smart phone or tabletQuote:
Originally Posted by Ash Carr
Technically, theyve been the juggernaut in the media player market for years, and this is definitely a media player.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxOne
One thing is, I like the Rekordbox mobile prepare and sync options, but how is this realistically going to transfer onto a 2000Mk2? This is basically the same functionality as plugging in a Rekordbox drive or SD, but now with a wireless interface vs a USB port.
I think the main highlight of this unit is the standalone USB functionality. Yeah, if you're new to Rekordbox, syncing it all to your phone could be a pretty fun way to get into it, but if you already have an RB USB, you probably won't need to touch it.
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Originally Posted by MYE
It has a standard USB A port, and could definitely charge a smartphone, that's what I've been blathering on about. And why calling this a "controller" is a disservice.
One of the best things for me, and I know some will agree, is the positioning of the headphone controls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poulet Blanc
(Cue/Master Split etc)
This was one of the worst things on the DDJ and Ergo controllers, it seems that Pioneer have learned from their past.
€999,- in US $1299,- or $1399,- if I am correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
$1,400 in australia is way overpricedQuote:
Originally Posted by tekki
oh yeah the usb spot on the mixer, and don't get pissed about me calling it a controllerQuote:
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Probably 2K down here in volcanoville :)
Derringers have priced it at $1300 it might be $2000:lol: in new zealand (if thats where your from)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
They should include a price for you in press releases. Or like on Amazon, instead of comparing the price to retail, put what you pay and call it "Lol look what Jester has to pay."Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
I was accidently creating another thread. Sorry for that.
Here's what I intended to write:
With Pioneer having just announced the XDJ Aero there is one more controller in the game.
The XDJ Aero's key features are being a midi- and HID-controller (for DJ software) while having integrated a two channel stand-alone mixer and media player (which means the whole unit is able to run stand-alone as well) and the very special function of being able to stream music from your Iphone via WiFi. No cables needed.
But the question is: Will any serious DJ ever make use of this function? I mean everywhere DJing is a serious business DJs normally tend to deactivate WiFi and want to be able to rely on their system. Even with physical cables there are enough sources for problems. So why to add another?
While looking similar to the DDJ Ergo V in most points (a bit toyish in my opinion) the XDJ Aero is tagged with a US$1399/£869/€999 price tag. In my opinion it's hard to justify that price due to the fact that it's only a two-channel mixer and due to its rather unprofessional look. The feature list makes me feeling it's targeted at the group of bedroom DJs but will these people really spend this amount of money for a XDJ Aero?
I think people will rather keep buying S4, VCI 400, DDJ-1 and so on but what's your opinion?
Is this piece of gear exactly what the whole world has been looking for for so long?
*standalone media player, not just a "controller."Quote:
Originally Posted by RockingClub
I think for a long time people will be misquoting it and saying that it is a controller don't get annoyed at them for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
It's a massive difference. It's like calling a CDJ a controller just because it has a soundcard and interface.
I think the issue with wifi is when you are not connected to a network and you have wifi on it will look for a new network every few minutes taking up valuable resources... If your connected to a network already there is no need to reconnect so you probably wont have the same issues. *I'm just thinking out aloud & don't know the facts to support this*
I don't particularly like this but the next cdj will be something to talk about with wifi connectivity making changeovers seamless.
So essentially i could buy this and use it with 2 usb sticks and play a set?
djing songs about cops all night with this baby
bad boys bad boys
I mentionned it as a stand-alone mixer (not just a "controller") but fixed it now anyway. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Btw: 500. post ! :)
People saying it looks toyish but i actually think at a glance it looks more pro than an s2.
I got an S2 and like it but I think this genuinely "looks" like a better bit of kit. definitely punters would say it looks more pro.
If they'd gone with CDJ2000 style looking jogs that'd have been the icing on the cake.
Controller is not a dirty work.
I use the term to describe an all in one mixer and jog device. A CDJ isn't exactly a controller because it doesn't control all the functions of 2/4 decks and mixer set up.
But these are just semantics