maschine iceberg coolness speculation

seeing all these NAMM teasers and releases makes me wonder what will happen with the maschine that Mike Gao was hinting at in his interview (http://www.djtechtools.com/2012/11/0...io-mike-gao/):

"I may be biased, because this summer, I worked on some new features for the Maschine as part of the Native Instruments R&D team. I don’t want to say anything and get in trouble, but the Maschine MkII update is only the tip of the iceberg of all the cool shit that Native is plotting for the Maschine."

I guess he doesn't specifically say traktor and NI don't recently anounce stuff at these big shows but still...

Maschine as another type of deck, instead of remix deck, kind of a locked down VST sort of implementation, no need for midi sync? That would be awesome...

I guess it could also be a straight integrated alternative for the F1?

maschine finally gets more sequencer functionality? and a mixer maybe?

iMaschine gets extended to do more? would be cool, its looking pretty weak these days compared to impc and bm2

I'd love to see Maschine get its own deck in Traktor, so hopefully it's that. Also the thread title is so good, haha.

Beefed up imachine paired with the Machine hardware to control it would a solid lil standalone affair.

lmaoo I remember that interview and its funny tha tline you quoted is the only thing that caught my attention. A maschine deck of its own is an amzing idea. I never thought of that. Pretty much any increased integration between Traktor and Maschine for me is a win. I dont think they play nice together at the moment.

Excuse me while I clean the drool from my mouth at the thought of vst's in Traktor. Should any man have that much power?

I just hope all to new/upcomming goodies are not reserved for Maschine 2.0
Just bought the MKII and would be pissed if there is another update in 6 or 12 months.

Thanks for the nfo !

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama

I just hope all to new/upcomming goodies are not reserved for Maschine 2.0
Just bought the MKII and would be pissed if there is another update in 6 or 12 months.

Thanks for the nfo !

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this is true....It should be a good year for traktor and maschine updates. IMO this really need to incorporate some sort of a grpahical interface in maschine. I like the layout of the daw but it could do with a more modern look If I had to find something negative to say

online timestretching?

stretching with traktor? i.e. sample in maschine, drag to traktor as wav, pitch shift, drag back as wav (I think this is only possible one way M->T at the moment right?)

some kind of built in side chaining? other than lfo/tempo synced work arounds... (or have I missed something...)

more flexible midi mapping for the standalone version?

Maschine as external FX processor would be cool, but I would guess that would be part of an overall package of enhancements.

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Originally Posted by scooterADAM

online timestretching?

stretching with traktor? i.e. sample in maschine, drag to traktor as wav, pitch shift, drag back as wav (I think this is only possible one way M->T at the moment right?)

some kind of built in side chaining? other than lfo/tempo synced work arounds... (or have I missed something...)

more flexible midi mapping for the standalone version?

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built in side chain would be amazing. For now I use the LFO tool plugin (see below link). I have it set up where it reads the midi note pattern of my kick drum too get more of that pumping effect. I havent looked into a lfo/tempo work around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXOBvWz2i6M

Maschine should simply be capable of reading traktors beat grids, making chopping and re edits really easy.

Maybe it's just me and I'm doing it wrong but the one thing I found annoying with ableton is how it's auto warp can sometime screw up a perfectly good song. Hardly any modern music requires warping so I feel like it'd be a major workflow improvement to just use traktor grids.

I think the logical step for them is to really use maschine as a next step for Traktor users who would like to start producing. The more you can link them and create a fast workflow for making your own edits the more successful maschine will be

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Originally Posted by rdej47

Maschine should simply be capable of reading traktors beat grids, making chopping and re edits really easy.

Maybe it's just me and I'm doing it wrong but the one thing I found annoying with ableton is how it's auto warp can sometime screw up a perfectly good song. Hardly any modern music requires warping so I feel like it'd be a major workflow improvement to just use traktor grids.

I think the logical step for them is to really use maschine as a next step for Traktor users who would like to start producing. The more you can link them and create a fast workflow for making your own edits the more successful maschine will be

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100% Agreed. Looking at the preview for the one software...they are boasting some pretty cool features.I just like the fact that its really flexible and customizable. I know not all people would like this but for them to have some sort of connection between maschine and traktor that would allow for that level of control is the next logical step.

well a couple of months have passed... the NI teaser just turned out to be battery/komplete stuff of little consequence to maschine, pfffffft.

same with the ipad app..

surely something major will happen in the next quarter, 1.8... comeonnnnn 2.0!

top contenders:
* DAW like features?
* Maschine as a Traktor deck integration?
* Traktor as a Maschine plugin integration?

necrobump back to life! ;)

+2 months

been since june 2012 since an 'on the record' thingy (http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=167185)

Mr Mike Gao, as talented as his is, seems to have been a little premature with his awesome musing re immentent functionality.

WTF NI is anything going on with maschine? I love it to bits but am really starting to wonder...

NI could really open machine with a grid based sequencer 16x16 to run along side the current Machine.

Sort of like Ableton Push, you could use it to trigger scenes, and sequences or it could be used as a keyboard.

I know i'd buy it on release, and i'd say the techno style DJs that use would use it over the current MPC style controller

2 things I want, I would literally go to Germany and beat someone up at NI for it....lol

-live slicing in traktor via maschine or F1

-vsts inside traktor, just imagine playing arps tightly synced to the current song! Um sick.....

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Originally Posted by beisi

stretching with traktor? i.e. sample in maschine, drag to traktor as wav, pitch shift, drag back as wav (I think this is only possible one way M->T at the moment right?)

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actually wavs can be dragged from masch to traktor, or traktor to masch! this was how i did my timestretching in maschine before we got the offline stretch. unforch maschine can't handle mp3 drag and drop :/



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i am also hoping for a maschine deck in traktor, and i would love to see some fl studio type sequencing (paint in the patterns) put into maschine

bumping to keep the speculations flying...

maschine integration optimism rapidly fading... I think NI are gonna maybe put in some kind of of slicing (ala SDJ slicer / TDJ freeze) with some other hardware

given the whole groove box marketing of maschine surely it would make sense to allow for better transport control of it when using it in standalone mode. Running a fully fledged DAW in the background just for transport is pants, NI, give me tempo nudge buttons and i'd be one happy camper!
http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=156322

/on a related note, can anyone recommend a light weight VST host that has midi mappable tempo nudge controls?

I think a Maschine (software) update is imminent, just got the classic "only a few days left to buy Maschine w/free expansions" email. This is NI's final push to drive some sales before introducing a new update a couple weeks later.

Another two years have passed.

Seems that Mike Gao was talking about stems/LCD screens as being the iceberg that MKII update was just the tip of.

Given Serato hinting at Bridge resurrection a whiles back...
http://serato.com/forum/discussion/1426185

What do you think the odds are that we see Serato Bridge 2.0 before any Traktor Maschine integration?

Feels like NI don't have any desire/incentive to make it happen.

annnnnnd another year has passed lol...

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annnnnnd another year has passed lol...

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And Pioneer is about to drop their already fully integrated sampler/drumthing, which works with Rbox already.

NI is still sleeping peacefully and is untroubled by movements in the industry.

i feel another bunch of expansion packs coming on zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Serato DJ Ableton Link incoming...
http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=92444

shots fired...

Anything integration news from NI....?
nah just another hardware controller

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Originally Posted by beisi

Serato DJ Ableton Link incoming...
http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=92444

shots fired...

Anything integration news from NI....?
nah just another hardware controller

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NI havent bothered to do any kind of Traktor/Maschine integration in 6 years even though its constantly requested. A Maschine deck in Traktor would be so simple, but they simply dont care about what customers want.

NI tells you what you want.

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Originally Posted by ImNoDJ

NI havent bothered to do any kind of Traktor/Maschine integration in 6 years even though its constantly requested. A Maschine deck in Traktor would be so simple, but they simply dont care about what customers want.

NI tells you what you want.

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Looking at the disappearing of the Jack Connection on the new i-Phone I guess NI has the same product Research & development section than Apple. ;)

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Originally Posted by Stephen Nawlins

Looking at the disappearing of the Jack Connection on the new i-Phone I guess NI has the same product Research & development section than Apple. ;)

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Nah.