Ableton 9 (Control Surface Scripting)

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03-14-2013, 06:41 PM
padi_04

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Ableton 9 (Control Surface Scripting)

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I decompiled the new _Framework library along with Push's script using uncompyle2 (you can use it to decompile any exsisting script and the edit them with Python or a regular text editor). These can be studied to create new scripts for your controllers, porting old ones to 9 or adapting existing ones to a different controller.

Scripts are written in Python 2.5 so I suggest you to use that version if you are going to use the app for editing purposes.

The benefits of scripting over regular MIDI mapping vary from having your map load with every new or existing project, controlling the red box (clip launching) or even breathe new air into your controllers with the possibility of adding shift layers and new functions such as scale mode. Some of it can be achieved with M4L but not everyone with a regular license is interested in paying extra money for it.

My intention by opening this thread is to create a place for people interested in the subject to find information, share tips and tricks and help each other on this very poorly documented subject.

If you are new to the subject you can get started by reading this blog.
03-14-2013, 06:52 PM
botstein

This is my favourite sticky in a while!
03-15-2013, 01:23 PM
padi_04

The rest of the controller scripts can be found here.
03-26-2013, 01:37 PM
botstein

This is pasted from the QuNeo newsletter.

"KMI is proud to announce the availability of QuNeo version 1.2.2, which includes updated QuNeo and QuNeo Launchpad Emulator scripts for Ableton Live 9. Download 1.2.2 here: www.keithmcmillen.com/quneo/downloads

Continuing our efforts to enable programmers and hackers to customize QuNeo, 1.2.2 includes the uncompiled QuNeo and QuNeo Launchpad Emulator scripts for Ableton Live 8 and 9."
04-25-2013, 01:49 PM
padi_04

Managed to edit Livid's Base script for the Spectra and finally got it working! Now to change the layout around so it's actually usable.

:D :D :D
04-25-2013, 02:56 PM
botstein

Can I help you out?
04-25-2013, 04:41 PM
padi_04

I'll probably need a hand later on when I decide to remove all the excess code that won't be used (touchstrips, etc) and general optimization. I already adapted the button grid to the proper size, assigned it to the right controls, etc. Everything is working except for the redbox's color coding, somehow they still don't show properly even though I put the right values where they should be, probably the script is sending some Base exclusive MIDI back that is mixing stuff up.

My main objective was to get the scales modes working and the leds do update when you are scrolling through them so I'm quite happy :).
06-08-2013, 06:31 PM
mjc1970

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi_04

I'll probably need a hand later on when I decide to remove all the excess code that won't be used (touchstrips, etc) and general optimization. I already adapted the button grid to the proper size, assigned it to the right controls, etc. Everything is working except for the redbox's color coding, somehow they still don't show properly even though I put the right values where they should be, probably the script is sending some Base exclusive MIDI back that is mixing stuff up.

My main objective was to get the scales modes working and the leds do update when you are scrolling through them so I'm quite happy :).

Any progress on this? I just got my Spectra and this would be incredible to have.
06-12-2013, 10:52 PM
padi_04

It's still in alpha, I haven't dedicated as much time as I should in the past months.

What needs fixing before I release it:
Show transpose as notes instead of numbers
Move the secondary controls to the side buttons instead of them living on a second bank.
06-12-2013, 11:29 PM
mjc1970

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi_04

It's still in alpha, I haven't dedicated as much time as I should in the past months.

What needs fixing before I release it:
Show transpose as notes instead of numbers
Move the secondary controls to the side buttons instead of them living on a second bank.

Sounds great!! I look forward to the release!!
06-15-2013, 07:45 AM
doclvly

happy to come across this. The xone k2 could use a script bad.
06-15-2013, 07:50 AM
tekki

I'm still thinking BCR2000. ;)
06-21-2013, 02:10 PM
Sadfilms

Hi guys ! I'm new in this forum and I have the next problem ):

I use Ableton 8 for producing beats and play live using a remote script (redbox) for the session view. Well yesterday I updated to Ableton Live 9 and I realised that the remote script that I used now doesn't works anymore in the Live9 ... and so

¿ Someone know how to " Update " my remote script of Live8 to Live9 ?
or some possibility for this works in 9 ?

I hope someone can help me
I really need to recover my script :(

Thanks !!
06-23-2013, 02:34 PM
padi_04

This might come handy. http://djnsm.com/ableton-live-9-midi...now-available/

Did you write the script or are you using the generic redbox one?
06-23-2013, 03:14 PM
Sadfilms

Ok ! thanks !

mmmmm
I'm using this
https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=150674 (I have Akai mpd32)

A few days ago I found the link that you sent me, but the truth I don't understand absolutely nothing, I need to know Python ?

Thanks for the reply ! :(
06-28-2013, 04:38 PM
mjc1970

Hello all,

I just uploaded a script I made for the Spectra for use in Ableton Live 9.0.4. It is largely based on the original MF3D Launcher done by ghztomash, so the bulk of the credit goes to his hard work. I simply took parts from his, and a few other scripts, and modified them to work in Live 9.

You can download the file here: https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/1666

I hope you all enjoy!!
08-21-2013, 02:52 PM
djmichaelwenz

I am just getting into scripts, I was able to add a user script to make the 8 knobs on the VCM600 macro controllable, so any device selected the 8 knobs control it... Thats great! Other things about altering the script are still a little confusing.... What I am after now is making my VCM600's "Tempo Nudge" buttons to move the device selector Left and Right. (Similar to the Left and Right Arrows).... Anyone help at all? I have posted in a few forums and have not gotten any response... ??? THANK YOU!
12-29-2013, 12:37 AM
botstein

I am teaching a class in control surface scripting as an advanced topic in Ableton live at CalArts in the new year!
01-08-2014, 09:03 PM
akiem

Behringer CMD DC 1

Anyone care to help write a script to make my rotary encoders 1 to 1 with Ableton instead of the 8 whole turns it takes at the moment?
06-09-2014, 09:48 AM
swolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjc1970

Hello all,

I just uploaded a script I made for the Spectra for use in Ableton Live 9.0.4. It is largely based on the original MF3D Launcher done by ghztomash, so the bulk of the credit goes to his hard work. I simply took parts from his, and a few other scripts, and modified them to work in Live 9.

You can download the file here: https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/1666

I hope you all enjoy!!

Hey!

So I tried to modify this script to be used with my MPD24 and, of course, it didn't work...
To try to pinpoint my mistake I retried but only modified the buttons to move the box:
I replaced the notes in "MIDI_map.py" by the right one (in my case 116, 117 and 118) and in the main script I changed the channel (previously 3) by mine (0 which corresponds to channel 1)... I didn't made any other modification but... It still doesn't work : the RedBow doesn't appear :/

Any ideas on what my problem could come from?

An explanation on what main differences with Live 8 scripting are to notice would also be very useful... I remarked a few but I'm not sure...

Thanks in advance!
06-10-2014, 11:42 AM
swolf

Hey!
So I'm trying to adaptmjc1970's code to make a script for my MPD24 and until now I was succeeding (not without difficulties) but there is a problem that I couldn't solve.
I want to use the faders on the mpd24 to control the volume of the redbox's tracks. I added the following line to the "for" loop used to set the arm/mute/select controls :

Quote:

strip.set_volume_control(SliderElement(MIDI_CC_TYP E, 0, index))

But it didn't work.
I also tried with

Quote:

self._mixer.selected_strip().set_volume_control(Sl iderElement(MIDI_CC_TYPE, 0, index))

but still no results.

I can't find the log file so I'm not able to debug the script. I didn't forget to include the SliderElement library so I really don't get what I'm doing wrong...

Hope you can help me with that! Thanks in advance guys and thank you for all the decompiling work you've made
11-18-2014, 06:56 PM
filmstardust

Hello guys, sorry if this is not the place, but i figure since you know about Midi Remote Script, maybe some of you can help me out with this:

http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=85105

I want to modify what the encoders of my controller do, without losing the rest of the functions it has.

Thanks in advance!
11-18-2014, 09:59 PM
Ezequien

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi_04

This might come handy. http://djnsm.com/ableton-live-9-midi...now-available/

Did you write the script or are you using the generic redbox one?

Sorry to ask about something you posted so long ago. I figured moderators would prefer it to another post asking for a generic redbox.

So I downloaded the generic redbox one, you know, this one. As expected, it works on ableton 8, but not 9. Thing is, I can't for the life of me find what I need to change to adapt it. I'm a total n00b, so it's no surprise. I'm asking because I've spent 2 days trying to fix it and acomplished nothing. I can't even make the damn box appear.
What do I need to change?
11-18-2014, 10:39 PM
Ezequien

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi_04

This might come handy. http://djnsm.com/ableton-live-9-midi...now-available/

Did you write the script or are you using the generic redbox one?

I'm using the generic redbox one and I have no idea how to port it to 9. Could someone give me a hand please? :o
11-25-2014, 04:24 PM
brysonprice

Ableton 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi_04

Attachment 22434

I decompiled the new _Framework library along with Push's script using uncompyle2 (you can use it to decompile any exsisting script and the edit them with Python or a regular text editor). These can be studied to create new scripts for your controllers, porting old ones to 9 or adapting existing ones to a different controller.

Scripts are written in Python 2.5 so I suggest you to use that version if you are going to use the app for editing purposes.

The benefits of scripting over regular MIDI mapping vary from having your map load with every new or existing project, controlling the red box (clip launching) or even breathe new air into your controllers with the possibility of adding shift layers and new functions such as scale mode. Some of it can be achieved with M4L but not everyone with a regular license is interested in paying extra money for it.

My intention by opening this thread is to create a place for people interested in the subject to find information, share tips and tricks and help each other on this very poorly documented subject.

If you are new to the subject you can get started by reading this blog.

Does this exist for Ableton 8?
02-24-2016, 09:45 PM
ahskam

Quote:

Originally Posted by swolf

Hey!
So I'm trying to adaptmjc1970's code to make a script for my MPD24 and until now I was succeeding (not without difficulties) but there is a problem that I couldn't solve.
I want to use the faders on the mpd24 to control the volume of the redbox's tracks. I added the following line to the "for" loop used to set the arm/mute/select controls :

But it didn't work.
I also tried with
but still no results.

I can't find the log file so I'm not able to debug the script. I didn't forget to include the SliderElement library so I really don't get what I'm doing wrong...

Hope you can help me with that! Thanks in advance guys and thank you for all the decompiling work you've made

you have spaces in there that shouldn't be there

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