Attachment 17175 is this what sound cloud looks like when it won't let you post a set because it may contain copyrighted material?
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Attachment 17175 is this what sound cloud looks like when it won't let you post a set because it may contain copyrighted material?
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Lol yeah I know other services but I pay for their pro plan I sure as fuck should be able to post a fucking mix
yea. i hear if you add a sample in the beginning, it clears. like a quick 5 second sample. I always just add a name drop before my mix. it ends up clearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
I have heard this before, but didnt do it on my last upload and it went through, no issues....Quote:
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
However, three months down the line, I get an email saying that it contains copyrighted material, and so has been removed. Hmmmm. Might find somewhere else to go....
Leave a 5 second gap at the beginning of your mixes. Soundcloud only check the first 2-3 seconds for copyright breaches. This should solve your problem.
Why is this a surprise to anyone?
Why are people surprised when they break the law or the rules of Soundcloud. It is not permitted to upload copyrighted music... period. Doesn't matter if we dislike it, that's the way it is.
https://soundcloud.com/community-guidelines
There are ways of getting round the copyright check and they are documented on this forum.
The problem is that Soundcloud isn't responsive when issues arise. I know a classical recording engineer who posts mixed/mastered preview versions up on a paid account set to private, just to show clients and see if they're happy with how it sounds and he has had his uploads taken down on several occasions even though it's things he recorded himself - just because the music uses a score that is copyrighted, but his clients have paid for.
Many emails back and forth and he has never been able to get around the issue so now he just hosts it all himself on his home machine.
or he can just use Mixcloud. or Mixcrate. theres other options. it sucks... but it is what it isQuote:
Originally Posted by chromatome
why would you upload a single track to mixcloud?
why would you upload a mix to soundcloud?Quote:
Originally Posted by johney
Because I pay for the service And this is fist time I've had an issue so if happens again will cancel account.saying a mixed set violates copyright is a gray area especially when dealing with paid tracks. I am not shocked just surprised a set with little to no commercial tracks would be nailed but pop mixes I've posted haven't been
I love how this pops up every once in a while. It's almost amusing in a sad way, "RAAARGH, Im so mad, Soundcloud isnt letting me violate multiple laws in multiple countries, I PAY FOR THE SERVICE I SHOULD GET TO DO WHATEVER I WANT!!"
You're breaking the law, quit complaining that they aren't letting you get away with that just because you pay them.
x 2Quote:
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
^^Agreed. Just as I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
We all know its pathetic. We all know that souncloud became big and popular BECAUSE of djs uploading mixes as well as artists tracks. We all disagree that dj mixes damage the music industry.
BUT, we ALL signed the agreement that stated it is not permitted to upload copyrighted music.
No-one has a leg to stand on on this matter. No grey area, no exceptions.
And yes they may get it wrong as in the example posted a few posts above. This has zero baring on others that break the agreement with souncloud .
Yeah guys, just take your chances and if you get pinged, so be it .. I actually had a mix rejected last week. I tried re-upping a mix from 3 years ago, a house one. 2 Mixes in 6 years isn't too bad for me, however.
Sounds go on Soundcloud, mixes go on Mixcloud. Pretty simple, it happens all the time... I don't know why anyone would risk having their stuff taken down when you already know it's most likely going to happen.
Haha wow totally don't get this here let me break this down
1. I have never had this happen and was asking is this what it looks like when they get tagged as infringing.
2.why does it not say mix contains copy rights material if that is the case.
3. It is a gray area because copyright laws and TOS agreements based around copyright laws are in of themselves a gray area.
Don't really care I they tag them as copyrighted the rate in upload mixes it doesn't phase me. I don not use mix cloud because I did not like the layout of it.
I don't think that message is for copyright infringement - you ususally get a message/email saying why if it's copyrighted - I did at least.
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So people can download it, are you new to this mate? Go to http://www.soundcloud.com and let me know how you get on.Quote:
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
Did you think about using google for the answer man?Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
this took me 5 seconds to find - http://help.soundcloud.com/customer/...-won-t-upload-
don't be lazy ;)
No, we get it dude. I just think your anger is misplaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
I had mix taken down but I did not see that message.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
Dunno, as Nicky says, I don't think that is the copyright warning.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
No, they really aren't grey areas at all. Not in any way, shape or form. Uploading another persons track without explicit consent is copyright infringement (if copyright exists).Quote:
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
Regardless of 'personal' opinion (which yours is) and regardless of what is common sense (what we agree on) aaaaaand regardless of anybodys municipal laws (country specific) you are breaking YOUR contract with the company, Soundcloud.
Soundcloud even say that they do not give legal advice on copyright but they clearly state what THEY consider to ok or not ok.
https://soundcloud.com/pages/copyright
Let this be a valuable to lesson to anyone who uses public services that allow you to use their services for free or paid. You are often giving up a lot of control over the content that you post when you use these services. Facebook, instragram, soundcloud, if any of these services were to crash there would be no way to get your content back (unless you kept a local copy). I think it's important to consider creating your own blog/website and using services and players that allow you to host the content on your site. I recently listened to a podcast where this entrepreneur created "Pressgram" (filtered photo editing with uploading to wordpress) for this reason, he can now own his pictures and not sacrifice control to a company such as soundcloud or instagram. I'm not condemning these services you shouldn't use them but by relying on them 100% can definitely backfire and work against you.
Even Grandtheft (famous canadian producer) recently complained about soundcloud blocking his music, which in most cases are official label released remixes.
are you new to this thread? or just posting randomly without reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
Soundcloud realizes you can download mixes.. which is why they dont want to infringe on copyrights... why is why you shouldnt post mixes on soundcloud unless you know that there is potential of it being removed.
aka, the whole point of this thread.
Holy fuck I M not mad just think its funny have 2 servers if I really wanted to post there could
I've never had this problem and I hope to god it doesn't happen to me, I barely download Illegal music anyway! Either freebies or tracks I really love get put on and If I love the track I don't mind spending £1.50 on it
Mate, it doesn't matter if you have bought the track. Copyright law means you cannot upload a mix with those 'bought' tracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeetsMandy
Buying a track does not give you the right to upload it in a mix or in any format.
This has nothing to do with illegally sourced music (torrents, shared etc).
We all know this is a bollocks law (regarding DJ mixes) but it is the way things are and there are artists that WILL pursue a DJ through the courts if they find their track in a mix. It's rare but it happens. I have first hand knowledge of a world famous DJ that threatened action against a DJ if he didn't remove an uploaded mix with a track that he remixed. The DJ in question (who I will not name) is a first class c*nt.
MeetsMandy could you lose the player from your sig please ... i heard that the mods don't like it :)
I heard that to... them mods eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester
Theres so much hatred and arguing going on in this thread. Stop it.
We need to be positive. If you have a mix soundcloud wont let you put up, just put it up for free download on another site, add a samples portion of the mix to soundcloud, et the download link to the full mix in the more options setting of the soundcloud sample and voila your mix is shared on soundcloud.
I'm guessing they have a list of labels that don't play nice. Those are the ones that you should get pissed off at. Obviously just sticking a track up there for anyone to download is a douche move (does anyone do that even?) but crying foul when someone gives you free publicity from your track being in a mix (and ID'ed)... even douchier. The entire hobby was built on sharing mixes. I mean, seriously, why stop there? Why not send the police to house parties to arrest people for not paying royalties?
Why are they not pulling down Lee Burridge's multiple 3-hour long sets that have heaps and heaps of copyright material?
Pretty lame rule which is haphazardly enforced. As stated before, they seem to not even do their due diligence to see who owns the copyright. They're hurting themselves. I cancelled my pro account a while back.
I think it's cos they only scan the first X number of seconds/minutes, as other people have said. I've only had 3 mixes blocked at the point of upload and they were all blocked because of the very first track, which does seem to back that theory up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiss-o-matic
I agree with everything you said though. It's the labels that are to blame, because I'm sure SoundCloud don't want to drive people to other sites by taking their mixes/tracks down. I have a Pro Plus account because I've tried a few different hosting services and SoundCloud is the one where I get the most listens by far - it's not even close. That's the main reason why people stick with it.
I get that the rules are rules, and I'm not even mad about going over to mixcloud. My question is, when these bigger DJs are putting their mixes on soundcloud, why aren't they having issues? Or are they just wiggling by somehow? Is this a stupid question?
How do you know that they are not having issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by djbigchamp
I know amateur DJs that have put a bunch of mixes up on SoundCloud and not had an issue. It really comes down to whether your mix features any of the tracks in the "blocked" database and, as many suspect, whether your mix starts with one of those tracks as it appears they may only scan the first part of the mix for infringement.
I'm not saying it's impossible that SoundCloud are treating certain DJs differently, but I just don't see how you can know. The only way to know would be to download their mixes and then try re-uploading them to see if they get blocked for copyright infringement. I wouldn't advise doing that with your main account though, because if you get too many strikes you get a final warning, then if it happens again your account is closed and they don't refund any money you've paid.
yup, and also big name djs would be far more likely to have actual permission from the copyright holder to allow them to upload the mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJSigma
i've only had a problem uploading one of my mixes and it was because of the first track as well. it was a song from the 2001 space odyssey soundtrack. this is the one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuisQ...8E176A&index=3
you can't blame soundcloud for this. they have to follow the wishes of the copyright holders or they will face serious consequences. it's just what happens when sites like this start to get a lot of momentum.