Hey!
I´m looking for a powerful PA for a living room at home where I practice DJing. I had the Reloop ADM-5 but they were way to soft. I need something which has enough power and base. What would you recommend?
Thanks
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Hey!
I´m looking for a powerful PA for a living room at home where I practice DJing. I had the Reloop ADM-5 but they were way to soft. I need something which has enough power and base. What would you recommend?
Thanks
Whats your budget?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fmshred
I would FIRMLY recommend decent (100W, maybe?) hi-fi speakers and an amp.
I've recently bought a little T-amp from ebay, that sits PERFECTLY on the shelf on my Stanton Uberstand, and the sound (quality and volume) is magnificent.
I have 68w (4ohm)/50w (8ohm) T-amp going into 100w (8ohm) speakers.
That shit is LOUD and CRISP. It sounds BLOODY LOVELY, and can be had for less than £100.
I would agree the HiFi route would be a lot better, if my decks were downstairs they'd be run through the HiFi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patch
+1 on the T-Amp, and you can pick up decent S/H speakers for pittance on ebay these days e.g. JBL Control 5's or Bose 201's can be had for under $100 the latter stood the test of my old DJ shop for 7 or 8 years before it closed down (speakers were still fine).Quote:
I would FIRMLY recommend decent (100W, maybe?) hi-fi speakers and an amp.
I've recently bought a little T-amp from ebay, that sits PERFECTLY on the shelf on my Stanton Uberstand, and the sound (quality and volume) is magnificent.
If you are in the USA you might look at these - I had a pair at home for years, used them at parties and they kick.... loud and sound good. Real bargain for $100 and you can drive them on almost any amp easily, e.g. I ran mine off a car stereo and even an alarm clock radio at one point!
Any speaker can be easily paired up with an active sub if you are really lacking in the that dept.
Okay thanks guys! Here are some i thought about. Maybe you can tell me if any of these are decent:
http://www.thomann.de/de/tamp_pa_4080.htm
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/1...CEN06?ref=list
http://www.thomann.de/de/the_tamp_pa..._stand_set.htm
http://www.thomann.de/de/kustom_pa100t_112s_system.htm
http://www.thomann.de/de/laney_hcp_804.htm
http://www.thomann.de/de/the_box_pa110_a_bundle.htm
I don´t want to pay more than 400€.
In a word No, none of them ... they are PA speakers designed for School Gyms/Bars/Bingo games ... they WILL sound like dog poo, all of them.
the box PA110 A Bundle would probably sound the best of the lot but you will not get still not get a decent bass response, PA systems are designed to throw the sound down a room at high volumes which is not what you want for home DJ'ing
Seriously, for home use, a good hi-fi setup as was suggested above will be wayyyy loud enough and actually sound good, not just loud in all the wrong places.
If you are lacking bass, get a sub
Okay I see. So something like the Jb-Controls with maybe an extra sub would be the best.
I think i will go for the Bose 102s. And combine them with a sub and Amp. Which t-amp do I need for good sound and to combination with a Subwoofer? Should I go for active or passive subwoofers?
Is this amp needed or something less expensive? http://www.thomann.de/de/the_tamp_e400.htm
Thanks!
If you are going Bose get the 201's not 102's. And honestly do not buy them brand new unless you want to spend a fortune!
The 102's only have a single 4' (?) full-range speaker and really only designed as fill/surround speakers, you will lose ALOT of top end and bass, where the 201's are "proper" full range speakers. - The 102's also require a speaker controller to get the best out of them anyhow.
And given the chance I'd go for Control 5's over 201's.
The amp will work fine however you might prob need to keep the volumes down on it and if its got a fan (no specified) will be noisy.
An active sub would be better for handiness sakes.
No offense mate, but were giving you solutions and you are going off on your own looking at completely different (worse) gear ?
Thanks for your answer! Sorry that was just a mistake I meant that I want to get the 201 not 102´s.
Dont know why you'd get a PA amp to go with HiFi speakers, doesn't make sense to me.
Why not just go down the route of an actual HiFi amp, they'll be more input options too.
Okay the problem is I have no clue about amps. So which hifi amp would be good for the 201 bose or control 5s with maybe a subwoofer?
I'd go with a powered sub to be honest, any would make a difference and you can pick a powered one up reasonable enough, check here ... http://www.richersounds.com/products...ers/subwoofersQuote:
Originally Posted by Fmshred
Amp wise the s400 you mentioned on thomann is actually pretty decent although probably a little too much umph for the Bose or control5's perhaps the smaller fanless s100 MKII would be a better bet.
If it were me, I'd personally probably either pick up a secondhand "vintage" 70-100w Rotel, yamaha or NAD or something on Ebay, failing that something like a Dayton or Muse T-Amps. They are tiny but they pack a punch.
Okay thank you! I will get a powered sub.Are there any specifications an Amp should have? Maybe I can get something cheaper than the T-amp?
Check the Muse amps.
And the link I posted earlier in the thread.
The muse patch mentioned is linked in my last post as well ... you really won't get anything better for the price (40 euro!).
Incidentally the sub $60 Muse and the Dayton amps I linked to ARE known as T-amps (T is for Tripath).. get the 50x50watt versions at least.
I think you might have gotten a lil confused over the t-amps because Thomann's own brand name is "t.amp" - but they are actually not t-amps.
If you are looking at other second hand amplifiers on ebay etc .. try to get something with at least 50w per channel and stick with brand names.
How many people do you expect to be listening? How big is the listening area? Is this for a big house party or is is just for you an a couple of friends. I know people who have huge overkill setups in their house with CV,JBL and EV bass bins but if it's for practice and chilling with :; I would suggest getting some cheap monitors with a sub,or a HiFi stereo setup. My setup is some old hifi Panasonic speakers and this amp:
http://www.parts-express.com/lepai-l...upply--310-300
:p
Okay sounds good. Yes I got a little confused over the t-amps. It is just for me practicing and some friends. The room is a bit bigger not a small bedroom.
So I got some Jbl control 5s with the JbL SB-5 passive subwoofer now. So with a little t-amp I can get this setup running?
Yes this should be fine, though I'm not too sure how powerful of an amp you will need. As the Sub is passive, the amp will be driving the sub and 2 speakers, which means you will need more power than if you had a powered sub.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fmshred
Someone else I'm sure will be able to give you some advice.
Okay thanks. So thats my exact setup which i got now:
1 x JBL SB5 Subwoofer 4Ohm, 350Watt, 45Hz-175Hz, 91dB, Crossover 125Hz
2 x JBL Control5 4Ohm, 175Watt, 75Hz-20kHz, 89dB, Crossover 3kHz, 6,5" Speaker + Titan Tweeter
Now you will need a bigger or separate Amp for the sub, the little T-Amp will not drive the sub properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fmshred
You shouldn't have mixed studio speakers/subd with hi-fi amps.
The little amp I showed you is great, and any decent hi-fi speakers (of 100w or similar) would sound great.
You don't need studio speakers/sub for home use DJ'ing. You've wasted a TON of money.
I personally dont know of any good amps that will also drive a sub, I have a 2.1 HiFi setup but that is with a powered sub. I don't know of any 2.1 amps, you may have to go down the rout of getting a surround sound amp.
I'm not sure what the best option would be.
I'd hardly call the Control 5's any more than a decent Hi-Fi Speaker :pQuote:
You don't need studio speakers/sub for home use DJ'ing. You've wasted a TON of money.
To be fair the Control's on their own will be fine with a T-Amp, should have got a Powered sub however - its going to cost money to drive that beast.
Did you pick them up secondhand ?
Also as it's a passive sub, I'm not actually familiar with it but in the pictures looks like it has no control over anything?
Having control over crossover is important, I run my sub up to 100hz then my bookshelfs take over, I would run it lower but my bookshelf speakers are only small and so it helps beef up the lower end.
Groovy - then maybe he should just take the sub back and get a get a decent amp.
But the mini t-amp I linked to ain't gonna have enough power for those Control 5's.
I have these;
http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/#!compact/c1z2z
They only have a 4 inch cone, and so thats why I opted to get a sub too (Well got a free one actually)
Driven by an Okyo CR 555 DAB, which is only 2x22w, but it could also happily drive a pair of Q acoustic 1030's which are big floorstanders, and would happily fill the room.
If I were you drop the sub for now and focus on getting a good amp to drive the speakers.
Now things are getting confusing ...
What do you actually have - did you buy the controls or going to buy ?
Whats your budget
Are you buying new or second hand
How big is the room
Where are you located
I believe he's bought speakers/sub, and now needs to get an amp.Quote:
Originally Posted by deevey
My Bad, mistook you were the original poster (hence the confusion)Quote:
Originally Posted by amadeus
Brand new - Air cooled and 3 year warranty for 139 pounds and would power the entire control setup well and gets very good reviews.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_a...ioendstufe.htm
ha now worries, I was just providing examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by deevey
That you dont need to have loads of power to run them, obviously it would help.
Build and load them yourself ;)
What build the speakers which he's already bought?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daily Crisis
Can always build some more
But again no control over the Sub? And by the looks of it you can still only run outs to the two speakers, not sub aswell?Quote:
Originally Posted by deevey
I really don't know what the best solution is other than ditch the sub and get a powered one.
You could, but OP has bought speakers and sub and is looking for an amp now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daily Crisis