Hi,
I see a lot of dj's use maschine as a plugin into ableton, but why? What's the advantage?
What's the difference in use when using push?
Thnx!
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Hi,
I see a lot of dj's use maschine as a plugin into ableton, but why? What's the advantage?
What's the difference in use when using push?
Thnx!
Maschine has its own audio libraries and workflow, which some people prefer over Push. Running it as a plugin in Ableton means you can make use of Ableton's effects and SEND/RETURN features as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanny
Man you know a lot! Can't you just zip your brain and mail it to me. :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by happydan
Meaning that the maschine has no effects?
Thanks!
of course maschine has effects also ..
Yeah, I simply meant that people might prefer to use Ableton's effects racks over Maschine's. Ableton has a certain elegance that Maschine lacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanny
The content and versatility mainly. Maschine's library is quite more versatile and ready to use comparing it to Ableton and they release expansion packs quite often.
If you are dead set on using Ableton then Push makes more sense as a controller but with Maschine you can easily jump between different DAWs.
My 2c:
For me using Push is sitting down with it alongside a computer screen and a mouse and going back and forth between the two. Ableton is undoubtebdly more feature rich and powerful for making a whole track.
That said when I use Maschine Studio it is on my lap on the couch not even looking at the computer which I find more comfortable/inviting. I find it quicker to get a groove going in Maschine using the browser/categories with all its tagged content and super easy to manipulate, flip and resample audio from pad to pad from just using the hardware. I assume this holds true with a lot of others coming from an MPC workflow. Could just be because I used it first and for longer though, maybe someday Push will seem easier to use.
These are good points for production, but I think the question was more about DJ setups. But yeah, I can get behind this.Quote:
Originally Posted by beisi
EDIT: Also, the Maschine Studio is a fucking beast of a controller, making it almost unwieldy for DJing with. I certainly wouldn't want to lug it to gigs all the time.
Wouldn't want to lug it to gigs.Quote:
Originally Posted by happydan
What are the alternatives to add claps, high hats, etc to your mix?
You could always get a drum machine or sampler and have that hooked up to a channel of it's own. With an audio interface with MIDI out, you could potentially sync it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanny
Model suggestions? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by overcast
Roland TR-8 if you're looking for the closest thing to an 808/909.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanny
If you're looking for something cheaper and smaller, the KORG Volca Beats is a fun little unit to play with.
i just bought a second hand arturia sparkle, curious if i like it, downside its just a controller for a software based program, though it should work just fine along side and synced to traktor
I know the tr-8, but not clear to me it has the option to use one button to create a rhythm. It seems to me that you need to press the buttons on the exact location in the sequence row.Quote:
Originally Posted by overcast
Maschine and push has that option. To use the sequence and to us it as a fingerdrum.
Or am I wrong by saying this about the tr-8?
It kind of does.
If you press the 'Inst Rec' button each drum hit is assigned to each of the 16 buttons so you can play it live in a way similar to maschine. However I don't think the buttons are velocity sensitive.
Life would be much easier if we saw an easy Maschine/Traktor integration - I think NI would get more people as well jumping on the Maschine bandwagon as it would make life so much easier....(doubt it'll happen any time soon ;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by overcast
Yeah I'd love that, Something kind of like ableton and serato did with the bridge but hopefully a bit more popular. I'd gladly sacrifice a track deck if the signal from maschine could be sent out of it. I should point out that I don't own maschine at the moment but would buy one if they did thisQuote:
Originally Posted by snapandslide
I would never give up the 4th deck. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by snapandslide
Until I have the cash for a xone 92 and a separate interface for maschine it's a sacrifice I'd be prepared to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanny
You van have a drum sequencer in traktor with the midi fighter twister. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by r08zy
I've seen some stuff about the twister working as a sequencer and I'll be doing something similar with drum loops that I have created when I get my F1 (It's at home now but can't get it until my birthday on the 11th).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanny
What appeals to me most about using maschine or a drum machine synced with Traktor is the ability to modify the sounds of the hits live, things like changing the decay time of that hats or changing the pitch/tuning of toms. The more I've been playing techno the more I want to find myself getting lost playing with loops and tweaking individual sounds for hours on end.
IMO Volca Beats sound is pretty weak, better off using a Volca Sample as a drum machineQuote:
Originally Posted by overcast
That's actually probably a fair assessment. I like my Beats, but I also always run it through some sort of EQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by beisi
I'm looking at maschine mikro now.
Biggest differences are the Rotary knobs on top and 2 screens instead of 1.
For adding some claps and high hats it would be an good option.
What are you thoughts?
Normal or Mikro?
Maschine is not stand alone !! its need the software to run ...
I'd stick to the regular MK2, it's not that much bigger than Mikro and you get a lot more out of it thanks to the dual displays and such. Mikro is ok if you will be mainly using just the pads on stage, everything else will be a lot easier with the regular one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanny
I've got a Volca Beats. Given the knowledge I have now, I'd probably go for The Volca Sample or save for a TR-8. BUT, it's still a fun little drum machine and a really good intro to electronic music hardware. I would imagine it would be much more interesting if you have the other synths in the series.