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Could you post a screenshot of your timecode scopes? Are your turntables grounded properly to the mixer?
Sounds like a turntable/cartridge issue and not mixer/software
I'm not ruling the cartridge out of the picture, going to check on it. I don't have any records other then timecode. I'm at work right now. I'll check on it and let you know. Is there a specific trick to clean it? I just use a earbud and gently touch it a couple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMP
Thank you.
Hay there. My turntables have a "preamp" and the switch is on line not phono. So I think that should take care of it right!?Quote:
Originally Posted by makar1
At least I never had this problem before on it.
I'll gather some screenshots later this weekend.
Try turning off your "preamps" and using them through Phono instead.
Just to check, if your turntables have a phono pre amp, then they should be plugged into a line input on your mixer.
How are you liking your new Macbook so far? I hope your troubles are not related to Traktor and Mavericks specifically. I plan to pick me up one in the next week or so. Just trying to make up my mind on the specs right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainstormcrib
Yep Ross, that's the correct method. I did try booth ways, line on the turntable using line/cd in on the mixer & phono grounded using the phone in on the mixer mixer utilities set to phono/timecode. I got the same frustrating results.
Thank you all for your comments, please keep them cumming, Let's figure it out why the fastest MacBook Pro one can buy and the DJM-900 club standard mixer are not working with Traktor because as of right now If was not for you guys help I would have heard nothing from N.I or Pioneer on the subject.
- ps: I'm feeling like a looser with all this useless expensive gear.
Hey, I'm skeptical right now as I stand, I think is very possible this laptop has got to me "to soon" regarding T2 and the DJM-900 drivers go. I use to have the late 2008 MBP before unibody that computer was awesome, best keyboard ever best screen finish ever "matte Screen" I had no gripes with it for about 4 years until I had to update from Traktor 2.5 to above and I have to change my OS from snow leopard "best OS on my opinion so far" and all my gliches started to the point I could not use Traktor on it running Mountain Lion, so I shot my foot. then I also had some Nvidia Issues that completely killed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelan
Hence why I had been waiting for over a year for this release of the new retina. Strictly to Run my Set Up. I'm sorry if I gave you too much information. I'm just frustrated over this "abuse of technology" - My advice would be to wait a little longer and research on your options get full report of a working set up on your machine of choice, them If you wanna be productive with your set up. LOCK IT DOWN and do not update anything afterwards. its the only way to ensure it will keep it working for you.
makar1
I'll be posting pictures of my scopes tomorrow. sunday.
Thanks
Here is a Short screen capture of the Calibration process and how it Fails and how the scopes are looking like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkgOx...ature=youtu.be
I hope that helps
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Your scopes look very noisy (interference), and the grounding error indicator came on briefly at 0:25.
Are all your devices connected to the same ground point?
I am also currently running on Snow Leopard and have been pretty happy with it as an OS. I also want to update my version of Traktor (therefore needing a new OS), but more importantly need a new computer first with greatly updated internals. I want to just assume that because I get a new Macbook Pro with a new OS that everything will work great and Traktor will run smoothly, but I do have my concerns. As far as the retina screen goes, you're not experiencing any burn-in or ghosting so far?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainstormcrib
I watched your video. Though I use TSP, I'm not an expert my any means. But from what I saw, my first guess would be cartridge or needle. I only say that because of the view of your scope on Traktor. Seems like there maybe a bad connection or it may need replacing - either the stylus and/or the cartridge.
Also, makar1 said something about the grounding indicator coming on. On one of my turntables this indicator is frequently on more then it is off. But yet I've always got both tables securely grounded (at least outside, maybe not inside the table). I don't hear any effects of this indicator being lit up though using TC or vinyl. Have you ever had problems with that before? Wonder what I'm missing?
Hey Guys, good news, N.I have sent me a couple of emails on my ticket, they sent me a script to run on my mbp and send them back. I should also probably contact Pioneer as well even though they don't have a driver and a firmware for the DJM-900 that is for OS 10.9 Mavericks yet and this issues may be important to them too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chelan
I have seen a serato dj on youtube that posted very similar "static waveforms" running Serato on the DJM-900SRT. I was very intrigued buy it. I decided to make sure they know about this case and they were talking to about the need for a better co-operation between companies. intel - mac, serato - pioneer, Native Instruments - Pioneer.
I hope its going this way.
I dont know as well man, I can say that I have tried to plug my mixer in a different outlet then the amp and the turntables. just to avoid an electrical loop but still.
I did used my gear before very seldom because when i got my mixer my 2008 mpb broke, that was, you know, not ideal.
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Interesting Chelan, maybe you would should give an example or tell me specifically what I need to do because I grounded the tt on the mixer.
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does the timecode sound clean when you play it out through the speakers? Also when you life the needle is there any buzzing? it looks like as well as some interference one of the channels Left or Right is not fully there, or the phase is wrong…which would point back to the cart
Sounds like you are hopefully making progress with NI and hopefully it is not a compatibility problem on their end, but maybe a driver issue with your mixer?
As far as what you should do in regards to grounding, I was saying that I'm clueless in that area, because I ground my TTs to my mixer too, yet I still get a grounding indicator light on Tractor more often then not. My thinking was that you may have a cartridge or more likely a needle that maybe on the way down and need replacing. But that was only from seeing your scope view on the video. Also, like chriswoods said - might consider the TC vinyl could be worn out if you have been using it for a long time.
Hope you hear back from Pioneer and they can give you an update on the compatibility with their mixer and Mavericks.
From the scopes it looks more like an issue with the signal from the turntables, either worn needles/vinyl or interference from ground issues. The 900 drivers haven't been updated for years and they work fine for me on Mavericks, Mountain Lion, and Windows 7.
Last night I got to spend another couple hours checking my mixer connections by sound passing from a different device other then using as a sound card on my mac.
By using a jack to rca cable I plug in an ipod to the cd/line input to tests agains my headphones directly to the ipod itself tried every input on my mixer and found out that I had a grainier sound when listening thru the mixer I've also tried to apply some mild effects like echo and delay and I got a distortion with the echo like I was using "crush" the same artifacts on delay, very distorted spetially when twisting the time knob with it the echo on. I'm know it its not supposed to sound like this for a fact. it can't be that bad, so before I when ahead and buy a new set of needles I may ask.
Have you guys ever tried to do this before ? Can you check on the sound quality of your djm900 mixer when doing this?
I also used this jack to rca cable to plug the turntable into my headphone chances are my record don't sound so bad, and I may have to replace the needle but before I do that $ I'm more concerned with the DJM-900 being faulty somehow.
How else can I check? I put it thru another cable as well on the test mentioned as well same results.
Thank you
I've never had a problem with sound quality with my 900. No distortion with effects either.
What mixer firmware are you on?
based on your last post it might not be an issue with your turntable if audio signal is going through your mixer to your computer with a different device but with the same result then it might be your mixer or i could be totally wrong and its your needle
Hello makar1
Do you use timecode vinyl with your mixer? are you using your CDJ200s w/ digital input, cd/line input or in HID mode?
please if read my next post, I think my mixer is faulty. do you experience any bad quality sound when applying an echo or delay, how about if you turn the time knob wile the effect is engaged ?
Thank you.
Ver 1.30 & Driver "djm-900 utility" is 1.3.0 How about you?Quote:
Originally Posted by makar1
I'm on 1.28 and have never had any bad sound quality on mine. CD Timecode works fine as do all the inputs and FX.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainstormcrib
Hey Guys,Quote:
Originally Posted by makar1
After sound checking the mixer with other sources of audio when I found those issues I still needed to be sure about my cartridges so I pick up a set of ortfon concorde and a new set of timecode MKII's. Although the timecode sound its clearer unfortunately still problems, I will post another video on the new results. but basically even though its a bit more clear the signal is mess up some other how and my previous post about the DJM-900 being broken is possibly true. How do I get it fixed? I'm going to ask Pioneer support. I'm pretty disappointed. I have not even actually used this mixer since when I got it almost 19 months ago, because my computer broke just about when I got my DJM-900 I had never figure it out.
good day to you
If you are having problems with other audio sources and have ruled out problems with your speakers/headphones, it must be a fault with the mixer. Contact the place you bought it from to start with.
I know you hate to hear it, but it seems like you have exhausted every other option as far as trying to isolate the problem. Seems like you maybe correct in blaming your mixer. I just was under the impression that the mixer was working fine before you got your new MBP with Mavericks.