I know I posted this on the Native Instruments forum, but I need Help!

I still haven't been able to get my vci-100 working and its been over a month.

I have the ASIO drivers installed and on in traktor for my M- audio Fastrack pro. the fasttrack pro and the vci are plugged into the usb ports on my computer.

I have Traktor 3 LE installed and everything seems to be working as far as software goes.

I have the mixer set to internal and I have analog outputs 1 + 2 set to the master output. I have the SPDIF 3 + 4 outputs set to monitor. the master and monitor options are the only two options I have when the traktor software is set to internal mixing. My only suspicion is that the mapping of my vci is different/wrong?

I am using AV cables running from the M - audio Fastrack pro to my stereo's auxillary AV port. I have my headphones plugged into the front hadphone jack on the fastrack pro.

My problem is that when i play tracks I can't cue them up at all. The cue button doesn't seem to do anything, when i play a track regardless of whether the cue button is engaged or not it plays out of the speakers. The headphones seem to be acting as another set of speakers because nothing is different between the sound that comes out of the speakers and the headphones. I can control the headphones volume on the fast track and mess around with the a/b button and output knob which all seem to be working.

so are the any other available outputs. Im not familiar with ur soundcard but usually the headphone output is linked with another pair of outputs or has its own. Is there a 3+4 output other than the spdif? the spdif wont work

Thjis is probably too obvious but I'll ask anyway, are you using the right cue button? The cue button on the decks is not the cue button to listen in your headphones. You need to use the cue button in the middle section.

Anyway this is probably the issue- it doesn't sound like you have the headphones routed right; SPDIF is digital out, that's not going to work with your headphones. You need to set the headphone/monitor channel to whatever the headphone jack on the soundcard is, it definitely isn't SPDIF. I don't know if that card is even capable of what you want.

I assume the soundcard works with the vci-100, I am not sure of the compatibility with my computer but the soundcard was recommended by ean for use with the vci-100 in something somewhere i read/watched (possibly the soundcard video on youtube).

Those four (two analog, and the two spdif) outputs are currently the only outputs I have the option of using with the m-audio fast track in traktor 3 LE. I will try another set of asio drivers or something from the native instruments site for now.

and yes I know the cue point buttons at the bottom are not for beatmatching and previewing and the like.

Thanks for your replies, the hunt continues...

just looked at ur soundcard. Um i think that the a/b switch on the headphone out corresponds with 1+2=A & 3+4=B. Also the monitor output in traktor i believe is actually for booth monitors. Is there a headphone out in traktor? @ work atm so i can't go check.

There isn't a headphone out in traktor 3 LE, i was wondering if it might be because it is LE, but that wouldn't make sense because than traktor 3 LE would be useless to everyone anyways.

In internal mixing I am only given the Monitor and Master output options with a mono option on Monitor, with external mixing I am given Output A, Output B, and Out Preview. The only problem with using this is that I still only have the 2 sound options, analog and Spdif, (with 2 options in each of those).


Included are the two screen shots of the mixer window in the traktor 3 le software, under the tree heading "output routing"

Monitor in traktor applies to headphones, your soundcard doesn't have enough analog channels to use headphones, sorry. You might be able to use a sound card merger (Macs come with an app to do this, there are free ones for windows) to merge that card with your internal laptop soundcard to get an extra channel to plug your headphones into your laptop for monitoring. Otherwise your other option is a better soundcard. Converting the digital out to analog to be able to use headphones seems like it would be more of a pain than the other two options.

Not what I wanted to hear, but ok i guess if you say so. I just don't understand how there could be a dedicated headphone jack on the audio card but it doesn't allow me to use that as a dedicated output. I didn't by any means think I was going the cheap route on my audio card, but I guess this one comes up short, so glad I bought it on ebay from a place with no returns.

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FastTrackPro.html

this is my audio card, you guys are sure? no good? i mean i re-read the description and what you said just doesn't seem right but then again I am a noob in all senses of the phrase so I gotta take someone else word for it

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Originally Posted by mghanco

Not what I wanted to hear, but ok i guess if you say so. I just don't understand how there could be a dedicated headphone jack on the audio card but it doesn't allow me to use that as a dedicated output. I didn't by any means think I was going the cheap route on my audio card, but I guess this one comes up short, so glad I bought it on ebay from a place with no returns.

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Some good news, I looked up the soundcard and you should be able to have 4 analog output by hitting a switch on the card. You probably have SPDIF selected for channel 3 and 4 and you just need to select headphones or whatever. If the button on the card isn't right you won't get the right options showing up in traktor.

Here is a full tutorial for setting it up with traktor pro

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3411

I am using traktor 3 LE, i guess I am going to have to work an extra door shift this weekend at the bar i work at to spring for the PRO.

You shouldn't need Pro for that set up, but getting it anyway isn't a terrible idea. ;)

ok done some more research on m-audio's website.

on the front turn the mix knob all the way to the right. thats if you havent already tried but this only works with output 3/4 selected in pref's. Hmmm this is an odd one. see how that goes first

No luck, I just tried that as you said to with 3/4 selected for my monitor, and i tried that with the a/b button on the fast track both depressed and released, also messed with both mix and and the output knobs and it still seems to have something to do with either the fact that I don't get enough channels for the options in the soundcard output routing or that the cue buttons don't seem to do anything. Thanks for the suggestion though I am willing to try anything to get this thing working

Wait... if you have SPDIF 3+4 and your headphones are plugged into the headphone port won't that not work?

Don't you need to set the Headphone channels as the monitor out?

I can hear the music through the headphones no problem, I can change the sides which side I hear, all that jazz. What doesn't seem to do anything is the cue button on the VCI, if it is engaged or not, the sound still comes out of the speakers.

I am really confused by this:

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Originally Posted by mghanco

What doesn't seem to do anything is the cue button on the VCI, if it is engaged or not, the sound still comes out of the speakers.

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Are you trying to get the cue button to change the sound coming out of the speakers?

Also, is your Cue Mix set all the way to the left or the right. If it's set all the way to the right then you are only going to get the master output, not the preview.

And, in the pictures you put up, your master out is 3/4 and your monitor is 1/2. Wasn't sure if that's what you wanted.

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Originally Posted by mghanco

I can hear the music through the headphones no problem, I can change the sides which side I hear, all that jazz. What doesn't seem to do anything is the cue button on the VCI, if it is engaged or not, the sound still comes out of the speakers.

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Well that's how cueing works dude. Turn down the channel fader or crossfader so you can't hear anything out of the speakers then hit the cue button and you should hear it in your headphones. When you hit cue on any mixer or program it won't stop sending audio to the speakers.

I know, I know how cueing works, and I know the mix knob is set all the way to the right so that my headphone outputs are only getting what i send to them, it seems like everyone is gettin crazy frustrated with this, which is what i have been experiencing for a month, but it seems to me there is something wrong with the mapping or some sort of bug i guess I am going to have to fix. I am going to try removing all the software, reinstalling and seeing what I can get from that. after all this sluething I am greatful all of you have halped me do it just has to be something wrong with those specific buttons

I think I'm just really confused as to what you want.

If the mix knob is pulled all the way to the right then it doesn't matter what cue buttons are activated. All that will happen is you'll get the master output.

If, when you press the Cue button on the VCI and the Cue lights up on the mixer then there's nothing wrong with the VCI, nor the mapping. If there's a problem it's in Traktor but I don't think that there is an issue.

If your mix knob is all the way to the right then it will mirror exactly what's coming out of the speakers. If you turn it all the way to the left it will play whatever is set to Cue. If when you press the Cue button on the VCI the Cue button in Traktor doesn't light up then your mapping is wrong and that needs to be corrected.

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Originally Posted by mghanco

I know, I know how cueing works, and I know the mix knob is set all the way to the right so that my headphone outputs are only getting what i send to them, it seems like everyone is gettin crazy frustrated with this, which is what i have been experiencing for a month, but it seems to me there is something wrong with the mapping or some sort of bug i guess I am going to have to fix. I am going to try removing all the software, reinstalling and seeing what I can get from that. after all this sluething I am greatful all of you have halped me do it just has to be something wrong with those specific buttons

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Well people are confused because you contradict yourself and are unclear in every post. You complained that sound came out of your speakers when you hit the cue button like it should which would lead us to believe you don't know how cueing works.

How about try hitting the headphone logo cue button in Traktor and take the VCI out of the picture and see if it works? Did you turn the volume fader down (again, do it in traktor if you aren't sure the VCI is working) and try hitting cue to see if you hear sound? That will answer a lot of questions. Also make sure you have the knob turned in the correct direction, sometimes people mix that up, for this test just leave it in the middle and you can't go wrong. Report back.