Nurmark Goes Wireless?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/23/n...j-controllers/

Nurmark is releasing updates of their Mixtrack, iDJLive, NS7, and releasing what looks like a Midi Fighter 3d meets a Simon Says called Orbit.

But more interesting is that they're going with the units wireless.

What's your say on this?
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My opinions:
Being a Nurmark fan boy, I typically hold them to a higher plane than most others. They're great, just basic.

I like the direction they went with the Mixtrack. Having the pads is awesome, and it looks thinner and easier to lug around. I'm still personally waiting for a 4 channel Mixtrack.

The Orbit looks like it might be neat to just have and show off but practically speaking, having a jogwheel on a "handheld" controller seems somewhat backwards. You're going to be holding it with one hand, and scratching with the other? I guess if you're good with no crossfader. I'd picture the Orbit is more for just hot cuing/effects.

Now the wireless-ness. It's going to be something special to be able to go in the crowd and djing, but much with anything wireless, there's going to be some latency. My fear is what happens if you're djing and step out of your range? And are the buttons are going to have any sort of delay even with fine tuning on your system?

wow those all look like toys. like literally toys for a five year old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhRyG...em-uploademail

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Originally Posted by Stewe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhRyGb_Rj0o&feature=em-uploademail

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Ok that answered most of my questions. Glad to see it's a fixed wheel, that was a large concern.

Now I'm just worried about the size and the usb placement.

Also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJdZHJmcAQ4

For $99 this is like a cheap MF3D with a giant effects wheel, extra buttons, and an arm strap. I might have to get one of these.

haha davoh, you beat me to the simon says thing :)

Seriously though, this is a big hell no from me.

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Originally Posted by Jester

haha davoh, you beat me to the simon says thing :)

Seriously though, this is a big hell no from me.

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LOLOL. The dude telling us about it in that video kept saying how crazy the thing was and the amount of crazazzzzzzzy things you can do with it lol.

I agree with it looking like a simon says special edition from numark

it's like the case of a PSP enlarged..

too bad it's looks like a toy... somehow it reminds me of the Pioneer RMX-1000 but a toy version..

Numark should put me in charge of design.. :D

Is it just me or the MTP jogs look cheap as hell?

yea know what
i have been watching technology like this for so long i cant remember when it all started

But as a start off (to release in spring 2013) this "toy" as it seems
might be just the tip of the iceberg for them

Yes i do agree that the USB placement is a bit well..... LEFT HANDED
i mean, look at where it is.
Most people will use it right handed
I am left handed so i would slip it over my RIGHT hand and the USB would trail along my arm

i have more to say about this but ill post it up later

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Originally Posted by djproben

For $99 this is like a cheap MF3D with a giant effects wheel, extra buttons, and an arm strap. I might have to get one of these.

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Def post a review of it if you do!

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Originally Posted by Prespa

Is it just me or the MTP jogs look cheap as hell?

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They look waaay thinner than any previous models.

They're trying to incorporate everything with that little 45 adapter thing on the decks now which is honestly a huge deal breaker for me. On my iDJ3 the jogs have a clean metal center that lets you do some neat things when you scratch with it right. This just seems like it'd completely ruin that.

Upclose they look a little bit better, grooved so they don't slip that easy. That is a plus.

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Originally Posted by antifmradio

yea know what
i have been watching technology like this for so long i cant remember when it all started

But as a start off (to release in spring 2013) this "toy" as it seems
might be just the tip of the iceberg for them

Yes i do agree that the USB placement is a bit well..... LEFT HANDED
i mean, look at where it is.
Most people will use it right handed
I am left handed so i would slip it over my RIGHT hand and the USB would trail along my arm

i have more to say about this but ill post it up later

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This is truth. I'm glad we're starting to look at wireless options for dj equipment. But this seems like both a step forward and backward.

And I'm a lefty too so that's why I brought it up lol. Right handed dj's are probably going to bend the usb connection.

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Originally Posted by Jester

Seriously though, this is a big hell no from me.

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This round I'd have to agree. Numark is doing good with the direction however.

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Originally Posted by AllDay

LOLOL. The dude telling us about it in that video kept saying how crazy the thing was and the amount of crazazzzzzzzy things you can do with it lol.

I agree with it looking like a simon says special edition from numark

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Somebody was trying to get sponsored methinks lol

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Originally Posted by antifmradio

Yes i do agree that the USB placement is a bit well..... LEFT HANDED
i mean, look at where it is.
Most people will use it right handed
I am left handed so i would slip it over my RIGHT hand and the USB would trail along my arm

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So unplug the USB when you slip it on your arm? The beauty of this thing is it's wireless; you kind of lose that advantage if you leave it plugged in....

In either case, this is a $99 toy that looks fun to play with; I might likely get one but it's unlikely this will do much I can't already do with my guitar hero mapping (and that's also a wireless controller).

Should be in the next rendition of the MF3D.

yea know what yea i completely got stuck on the USB location plugged in
You are correct that it can go wireless ( i wonder if there is any latency or timelaps where it needs to reload once the USB is unplugged)

never the less there was a comment above from Davoh

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But this seems like both a step forward and backward.

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I understand what you mean about a step backward but i cant agree to it only because
i would say the same as a step back if i were only loooking at it from a higher technologically inclined user
like you and me. We use devices that are WAY above the capabilities of these things.


Now look at it from the point of view of a beginning user. Someone who is NOT in the "know"
I can see where this fits in and

from a company's developmental standpoint you have to take into account, that when you finally produce a new
piece of tech, you can test it out in house for a long time without even noticing its limitations
or knowing what exactly would be the next step for the device.

This way, in this product, it can be released to the public
and we can basically BETA test the hell out of it while the big bosses watch and learn where it went wrong
and what i needs to be BETTER.

Im actually thumbs up with this device, and not because i can see myself using it
Honestly i dont think ill ever get one because at my level as well as many others, this would be a flash in the pan device to use
which we would most likely drop into EBAY only a few months after opening the box.


Good work, but not really for me

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Originally Posted by antifmradio

yea know what yea i completely got stuck on the USB location plugged in
You are correct that it can go wireless ( i wonder if there is any latency or timelaps where it needs to reload once the USB is unplugged)

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They claim theres virtually no latency but I still question that.

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Originally Posted by antifmradio

I understand what you mean about a step backward but i cant agree to it only because
i would say the same as a step back if i were only loooking at it from a higher technologically inclined user
like you and me. We use devices that are WAY above the capabilities of these things.

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Uhhh...you may use those type of devices, I don't lol. My set up is just about as beginner as beginner gets. I've just played with my fair share of controllers. When I go to guitar center or best buy, I'm normally in the pro audio section playing around.

BUT. I say a step backward simply because I think the design could have been HELLA better. Seriously all this talk of over sized psp's and simon say's should be a clear indication of how this is going to be perceived.

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Originally Posted by antifmradio

Now look at it from the point of view of a beginning user. Someone who is NOT in the "know"
I can see where this fits in and from a company's developmental standpoint you have to take into account, that when you finally produce a new piece of tech, you can test it out in house for a long time without even noticing its limitations
or knowing what exactly would be the next step for the device.

This way, in this product, it can be released to the public
and we can basically BETA test the hell out of it while the big bosses watch and learn where it went wrong
and what i needs to be BETTER.

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Nail on the head bro. I just have a problem with that when it comes to something along these lines as it's probably going to ruin a dj career or two in the process. That's the human side of me talking, the ex business management major is applauding Numark right now for going out of their normal bubble sort of.

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Originally Posted by antifmradio

Im actually thumbs up with this device, and not because i can see myself using it
Honestly i dont think ill ever get one because at my level as well as many others, this would be a flash in the pan device to use
which we would most likely drop into EBAY only a few months after opening the box.


Good work, but not really for me

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This to me would be more of a novelty to a intermediate-pro dj, a good intro for beginners if they don't just use it for the LOL 3D CONTROLS only.

Obviously I can't give my opinion either way right now as I haven't even seen it in action, but I have to admit I'd love to use one just to see what it's like.

Looks like a better looking, not ridiculously overpriced MF3D. It's a big thumbs up from me.

Can't wait to see DJs wearing this thing strapped around their neck and out in front of the decks acting like idiots. Awesome

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Can't wait to see DJs wearing this thing strapped around their neck and out in front of the decks acting like idiots. Awesome

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Yep - prize for first pic in a club/bar.

Like I said before: it has something of the Pioneer RMX,


maybe someone could mod it, skin it so it' looks better?

Man, numark really need to get people that actually DJ to start selling their products, it's so cringey

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Man, numark really need to get people that actually DJ to start selling their products, it's so cringey

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i was waiting for someone to say this from the start lol
glad im not the only one that saw that

Even though the psp looks like a toy, it defiantly has potential. Someone just needs to map the shit out of it and it would be a pretty dope cheap midi fighter like controller

That new Mixtrack Pro looks like a Vestax Spin 2/Pioneer WeGO KILLER !

Those big buttons are nice.

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