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I'm attempting my first mix but I just can't seem to get the transitions between songs to go smoothly.
It might be that I'm 'trying too hard' and that I should just stick to the basics, because I'm messing around with cue points and effects (although I think I overuse the Delay freeze effect). I'm having trouble getting to grips with the 'build-up' chained effects presets from Ean's video.
Any tips?
in a nut shell - master the basics, maybe with a touch of filter, first before trying to get too clever.
I'm using a Numark Mixtrack and a Kontrol X1 so I don't have a filter knob.Quote:
Originally Posted by BradCee
I have all the basics covered, that's why I'm trying more advanced stuff, sometimes I pull it off, but most of the time, I don't.
in which case, practice makes perfect. but don't try too much at one time. and map a filter knob :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by BradCee
Use your effects during build ups, vocals, etc. to enhance the songs...
..during transitions, use your EQ's and filters.
I think about the amount of good DJ's i've heard play sets with two CDJ's and rock an awesome set without beatmaser, gater, and iceverb going at once.
Ok, thanks!
a fun one though, if you're a fan of the echo freeze.
(when coming out of a transition)
instead of using delay effect, drop a 1 beat loop, then whack some gate on it at 1/16 setting and slowly turn the key correction up, creates a choppy squeal that has a build up sound to it, then filter it off
I'm having trouble mapping the gater effect to SHIFT.RIGHT.3 on my Kontrol X1, because the dry/wet automatically goes all the way to the right but says 0 underneath it... any help?
I have set another parameter so that when I press shift.right.3 the gater d/w sets to 50 but the knob still shows that it's all the way to the right.
with the gate you want the dry/wet all the way imo
All the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by BradCee
the way i use it anyway
try to line up the phrases as best you can. Then, you can "preview" a little early, then eq-low or something to transition into new track, get the new track in by beat 2 or 3 of last measure before new phrase.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
Audio or it didn't happen ;) Seriously though, do you have a clip of how this sounds/should sound?Quote:
Originally Posted by BradCee
i will look through my soundcloud and check the mix this appears in is still there...Quote:
Originally Posted by trump
edit; can't find the one i was thinking of, but around the 10 min point onwards on this is a similar one (mixing from serious shit to radical), without the gater. also a few beatmasher/lo fi modulation (is that right?)/iceverb bits for breakdowns
I know this thread is old... but I was having issues and I looked through the forum to see if anyone had the same problem as me or question. Found this, but doesn't answer my question. So, here goes...Quote:
Originally Posted by haze324
When I make a transition from song A to song B, should the EQs ever be at the same level (in the middle) or should one be completely off and the other completely on and gradually turn it on while turning the other off (for high, mids, lows)? I'm assuming that the bass EQ is most crucial because I found that when 2 songs have high bass during a transition it's just a cluster of rumbles and shit sounds.
Secondly, there's the traditional transition where you raise the volume from song B and lower the volume from song A, but then I might be crazy, there's people that for some songs as soon as song A hits the outro, they turn song B full volume all in 1 shot and I would like to know if, again, the EQs need to be adjusted a certain way, like starting off at 0 or what? I know there's no general rule, but I'd like a guideline or tip of what you usually would do or recommend most often.
Thanks!
I play house and techno and this what I do. I usually keep the bass at 9 o'clock and the mid, treb at 12 o'clock. This is of course depended on which track is played. You gotta use your ears when cueing, to decide if the track comes in too hard using the above settings.
I never have the cues all the way down when bringing the volume up. I usually just push the fader slowly up to around 75 % and then all the way at the start of a phrase.
But again, it's all about using your ears, try out different stuff to see what works
Dohjo take the player out of your sig please.
The simplest and most general transition I do is keep all Track 1 eq at 12 o'clock. Before transitioning to Track 2 I set bass and treble on T2 to 9 o'clock. At the start of the phrase, I mix in T2 and leave the fader in the middle while ramping up T2 and lowering T1 at the same time. Then I do the same for bass. Then I just fade all the way to T2. All of that happens in one phrase usually.Quote:
Originally Posted by robbyluca
dont bother with effects until you can get things sounding musically good wth just eq's.
also your phasing will have a difference to how you mix 2 tracks
edit just seen how old this thread is lol the ops probably a master at it by now
u should be able to transition from song to song without any effects perfectly with beat/bar coutning, and mixing in key. you shouldnt need anything else. effects come later.
master mixing in key first, and then fk with effects.
I agree that mixing without effects is more essential than anything else, but mixing in key is over rated. Unless you're trying to mix two melodies on top of each other, I find that it isn't worth the effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
yea, but it def helps. this is advice for someone who cant get mixes to sound well together. Keys will def help, but it isn't the end all be allQuote:
Originally Posted by Culture_Shock
I can transition 2 tracks with no effects or anything, I do it with all my EQs at 12 o'clock. I have a feeling that it's wrong to do that. So my next step is knowing what's the best way to do it. Starting the new track with low eq at 9 o'clock makes more sense. Thanks for the tips though!
;)
Key, EQ, structure, level, fade.