CDJ800 + Trator scratch pro Laggy/Slow

Hey guys,

I own 2 CDJ800MK2 and a DJM 800, and I've finally decided tu get myself traktor (scratch pro 2)

The thing is that it is slow/laggy. I have the hardest time placing a cue point and finding the beginning of a beat, the loop function is broken, and the whole thing doesn't feel very responsive.

I spent quite some time online, but could not find an answer. I've synchronized/analyzed the songs, which helped a little, but it's still laggy.

My laptop is an i7 2.2ghz, with 16gb ram, which should be way enough - am I right ? Is there anything in the options that I missed?

In case my turntables and my traktor arent compatible, I was wondering:
-If I upgrade my Hard drive to an SSD hard drive, would that make a difference?
-Would getting a mac make a difference?
- I was looking into selling my set for a Pioneer DDJ-SX, but will it be perfectly responsive?


The main problem is that - though I would consider upgrading/changing my equipment - I don't even know where the issue comes from..


Thanks for your help guys, Ill be looking forward for reading your recommendations.

Cheers!

G.

What audio interface are you using to connect your laptop to the CDJ 800's and DJM 900?

Hey Rjc,

So basically here's my setup:
-traktor scratch pro 2 connected to Traktor Audio 10 the with USB
-CDJs connected to the 2 inputs (A and B) first of my through RCA cables
- Traktor Audio 10 (out A and B) connected to DJM through RCA cables

Does that answer to your question?


Thanks for your time

Alrighty, well the first thing you're probably going to want to look at is doing some windows optimisation to try get the most out of your system as possible. Hardware wise, it's more than powerful enough to run it, you may just need to do some tweaks.

I'd check out the following threads:
http://www.native-instruments.com/kn...dio+Processing

http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/08/1...-power-script/

http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/10/0...-dual-booting/

If you have any other problems, throw up another post, and we can work from there. There are plenty of people on the forum who successfully DJ using Windows.

Thx Rjc

I'll try that tomorrow and get back to you

Have you tried adjusting the actual latency? You could just be dealing with a high latency buffer and the general crap that is Traktor with timecode CDs.

Hi Shishdisma,

How does one do that ?

So I looked into it, I've just done the dual booting tonight. I'm gonna look into the other links tomorrow. I'll get back to you!

Thx again

Hi RJC,

sorry for the late reply, pretty busy this week.

So I've followed most of the steps. I did run the script, I did create a dual boot. And finally, in regards to the first link you sent me, i did most of it too. I am not 100% the right drivers (asio4all) are running, but it comes with a program that is running and that recognized my sound card.

I followed all the other steps though.

And honestly I didn't see that much of a difference for now. I m getting desperate, i really don't get why it is laggy when everything seems to be set up

Anyone around here?

My latency is about 10.2, the jogs still feel laggy, and the cue points that I set using my CDJs aren't really reliable..

Any thoughts, anyone?

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Originally Posted by Nelchior

Anyone around here?

My latency is about 10.2, the jogs still feel laggy, and the cue points that I set using my CDJs aren't really reliable..

Any thoughts, anyone?

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Welcome to CD timecodes with Traktor.

Can you be more specific ?

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Originally Posted by Nelchior

Can you be more specific ?

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The annoyances you're experiencing are inherent to Traktor's CD timecodes.

Well, lots of people use Traktor's CDs, and many of the, are perfectly fine.

I think I saw online that we could download an updated version of the CDs. I couldn't find it back though. You think that'd do it?

Apart from that, do you have any other suggestion? Should I consider that a latency of 10.3 (9.7 if I tweak a few things that I don't know anything about) good enough to assume that the issue does not come from my laptop ?

Anyways, thanks for your time, it's really appreciated.


Someone offered me $1400 for my two CDjs (800 MK2) + my DJM 800. If I'd sell them, I would then buy the DDJ-SX from Pioneer. What do you think - is it a smart move ? I'm really afraid that I'm gonna miss my DJM. I know that Serato has more effects, but I m really afraid I ll miss the way they feel, along with all the effects on the right side of the panel.


Thanks again !!

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Originally Posted by Nelchior

Well, lots of people use Traktor's CDs, and many of the, are perfectly fine.

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Lot's of people use them, that doesn't mean they're absolutely perfect.

True but I remember seeing a video on youtube where a DJ was reviewing his set - which was the exact same one - with Traktor. Everything was runnning smoothly. No delay whatsoever. Besides, the guy was saying that after trying different controllers, he thought that the CDJs were the best for Traktor (video was 1.5 year old though).

What about the deal I m thinking about? What do you think

I mea I m not debating which is the best controller, it's just that my Cue points shouldnt .. "jump" like that. I get to set a cue point on a beat after a few tries, but sometimes when I press the play again the actual cue point has moved. Same for the looops, they don't start when I press the buttons, they're slightly delayed.

Saying that just amde me realize that the autoloops are independant from the Traktor CDs. So the delay must be coming from something else.

The cdj's + djm for $1400, that's a very low price. I'm sure you can get $1600 for the set. I suggest you to keep the djm and sell the cdj's only. Buy a couple of technics + kontrol x1, you won't regret this. You can also save for a pair of cdj 900's.

Whatever, don't sell your djm :D !

Traktor timecode Cd's sometimes can be finicky for some people, but you should not be experiencing lag ALL the time. Something is wrong here.

Timecode CDs are just crap. I have no idea why, and TC vinyl seems much better, but I just hate TC CDs with both traktor and serato. Don't even bother trying to use them to cue, cue points drift because the software only knows where you are when the disc is moving - and of course it's not moving when you hit cue to return to your cue point. My advice is only use the CDJs to move and pitch bend the track, get a small midi controller for everything else. I had a gig using DVJ-1000s with serato and I just took my X1 and used the cue points to cue up just leaving the CD playing.

Yeah, you pretty much just told me what I wanted to hear. I like my DJM too much.

- How much do you think the CDJs are worth ? I was actually thinking that my set was worth less than $1500 up until now, so.. I'm not really up to date apparently

I just briefly googled the Kontrol X1, sounds interesting. Not sure what you're referring to in regards to the Technics. Also, I am NOT planing on using the autoBPM on Traktor, so I need Johwheels.


So you don't think the DDJ-SX is good ? it seems to have everything my set has to offer, in only one unit - appart from the panel on the right side of my DJM.


Again thanks for your time, really

I wish I fully knew what you're talking about :-)

MIDI is new to me, still not sure how it works. I actually grabbed an app on my Ipad called TouchOSC, cause I realized that using the effects using my mouse wasn't convenient. and this app actually works pretty well.

yeah cause the other thing is that for some reason, none of the shortcuts within traktor can be triggered from my keyboard. I tried every single key, it seems that I am locked in the playlist down the screen . I looked into the menu, started reading the 35p pages long Traktor PDF. nothing so far. That's why I'm using that app in the meanwhile