Maschine being a midi fighter mapping help

[drennnon]

hey guys,i am very new to mapping and ive done my best at making a maschine midi fighter for the instant gratifictation but the problem i have is that i cant switch the deck focus, i get all the effects to work on deck a but thats it, it seems like the top 4 button dont work. what i did was made a template mirroring the midifighters midi notes, but i guess i did somthing wrong. any ideas? thanks

[photojojo]

Start here

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/sho...light=maschine

and there's lots of useful info in the X1 thread as well

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26921

[TommyQuiet]

for the love of god!

[zestoi]

the instant gratification map uses the midi fighter in 4banks mode - so internally the mf switches what notes are sent out for rows 2,3,4 based on what top row button is selected.

you'd need to emulate that by using banks within maschine itself (which looks like what that first thread photojojo posted uses) or using some midi translation software between the maschine and traktor (which is probably overkill)

[drennnon]

ah okay, yeah i dont know loads about maschine in terms of midi but i wanted to use the group buttons to i guess "change" the midi templates of the 4x4 grid, for example on group "a" he 4x4 pads would be a midi fighter, while on the other hand group "b" could be some transport controls within traktor, while group "c" was somthing else of my choice, maybe used to control a VST effects processor tru ableton. so im guessing i would have to take Zestoi's second approach? some midi translation? i have noooo clue what that means haha ill google

[drennnon]

on a side note, are there any good djtt articles i could read that explains midi mapping, both simply and the more advanced mappings? i tried the search but i didnt really find what i was looking for

[zestoi]

ah okay, yeah i dont know loads about maschine in terms of midi but i wanted to use the group buttons to i guess "change" the midi templates of the 4x4 grid, for example on group "a" he 4x4 pads would be a midi fighter, while on the other hand group "b" could be some transport controls within traktor, while group "c" was somthing else of my choice, maybe used to control a VST effects processor tru ableton. so im guessing i would have to take Zestoi's second approach? some midi translation? i have noooo clue what that means haha ill google

"bomes" is the standard app that people seem to use for translating midi etc - it's not free though i don't think.

i'm pretty sure you could also use "glovepie" as a quick look at the docs seems to indicate it can read from a midi device as well as output to one. this thread deals with emulating a midi fighter using gamepad input in glovepie. you'd also need to make sure you passed through data from the other maschine banks untouched ofc.

if on windows i've found that loopMIDI is a good+solid choice for the virtual midi device - which you would need to use between traktor and glovepie.

not trivial tho... if you only needed to control 2 decks and so two banks of the 4banks midifighter map then you could just sacrifice two internal banks in the maschine for midifigher emulation? much simpler than getting into glovepie or bomes etc...

[drennnon]

yeah that is true i get what youre saying, so groups a b c d on maschine would be deck focus for the midi fighter, and groups e f g h would be for what ever else i wanted right? and all should work? sorry for being such a nooob lol

[zestoi]

yeah that is true i get what youre saying, so groups a b c d on maschine would be deck focus for the midi fighter, and groups e f g h would be for what ever else i wanted right? and all should work? sorry for being such a nooob lol

yep - if you have banks a thru h on your maschine then you still have 4 spare after using up 4 for the midifighter map - sound cool to me

wish i had a maschine myself - does look rather cool...