DJing with TTs -vs- CDJs
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    i currently have 2x numark TTs and am practicing mixing with vinyl records, i want to talk about the ways to practice how to dj with TTs/records -vs- using cdj's , meaning how much difference is cdj's from TT's?

    ok so this is what i know about mixing with TT's. 1. you lower the pitch fader on record-B, and try to get record-B to match with record-A. after decreasing the pitch on record-b to -4%, i notice after 2-4 bars that i get a sweet-beatmatch with record-A. but that match only lasts 1-2 bars. so now i have to slowly increase the pitch of record-b in FINE movement/increments in order to find the right pitch for both records to stay in sync for (lets say for the sake of) 6-8 bars before it goes off and out of sync.

    1. now my question is, once you become good at recogizing which records play well together and last somewhere 6-10bars together before it goes out of sync. what difference will there be when this TT-user moves on to cdj's, what can he expect, when learning how to mix on cdj's? will life be easier? if so, how so? what wont he have to worry about? what will he have to worry more about? is there a lot of adjustments to be made on cdj's?

    2. is it easier to get those two records you had trouble mixing on turntable, to mix well together using cdj's? can you get two tracks to stay longer in sync, with cdjs?

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    thres 2 questions, please try to address the two in your post, thank you. if you notice, question #1 has multiple questions, try answering them, i need a helpful post, not a quick post. +rep to the most hopeful one. (FYI, i'm not interested in laptops etc, so TT's and cdj's will be my only interest and focus in learning how to DJi and maybe one day DJing at an actual club. its just the way i'm, so don't give any opinions to give any laptop,audio2dj,software and etc a try/shot, not interested. thank you)
    Last edited by cutflow; 05-27-2012 at 03:17 PM.
    2x numark TT's, djm350, and vinyls/records and that's all i use man.

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    I started out the same way by learning on TT with vinyl, which I would recommend to anyone who is just starting out... controllers etc are cool but when there's ways to cheat we will (auto-sync) especially if your a begginer getting frustrated trying to learn to sync by ear...
    So I've had quite few different setups and i've only been Djing for less then 3 years (some may think that's a long time i duno lol) but as a begginer I bought shitty equipment, damaged equipment etc I thought I new what I was looking at but turned out I didn't anyways lesson learnt at least now I know for sure what not to buy and what to look out for...
    I learnt with 2 Numark Pro TT-1's and Torq for my first setup, then I bought A Technic MK5 and MK3D both were screwed wouldn't track, damaged parts etc ended up trading in and buying a Pair of Technics 1200 MK2 which were mint I used those with Traktor and then I ditched traktor and just used real vinyl for a while, me personally I think it's really important to start from the very basics... anyways I'm going on a bit, now I have 2 CDJ-900s and a Allen and Heath Mixer... I love vinyl even though I don't have any TT at the min I know I'll be buying a new pair in the future for home use, learning more scratching techquess etc...

    1)It's a fairly easy swap over I found, takes a little bit getting used to the pitch fader as it feels really loose compared to a pitch fader on TT's, still smooth just moves easier, I use my CDJ's in vinyl mode so it acts the same as using a TT hard to explain but you'll know what I mean when you try them. I did find life got easier when I started using CDJ's, well maybe not a lot, but definitely noticed a difference, there easier to keep in time. You won't have to worry about keeping needles clean, replacing needles, anyone knocking your needle while playing out. There arent alot of adjustments to be made on CDJ's not on 900's anyways, you get more fiddly bits to play with, Slip mode, Looping, Pitch fader adjustment % 6, 10, 16 or WIDE. etc there a lot more connection options with the CDJ 900's vs TT... The main reason I swapped over is that's what most of the clubs uses these days, usually I've been told most of the clubs have Pioneer CDJ 1000's or 2000's, mixers - DJM-800 or DJM-900 Nexus.
    Also I don't use a laptop anymore, I use the CDJ's with usb sticks and link them together so the CDJ's can take music from either usb in either CDJ, I prep all my music in Rekord box, It does take a little time but man I love it...

    2) answer is YES for me

    Hope this some what answers your questions

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    It seems like you're mostly asking if it's easier. Yes, and no. It's not a night & day difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by cutflow View Post
    1. now my question is, once you become good at recogizing which records play well together and last somewhere 6-10bars together before it goes out of sync. what difference will there be when this TT-user moves on to cdj's, what can he expect, when learning how to mix on cdj's? will life be easier? if so, how so? what wont he have to worry about? what will he have to worry more about? is there a lot of adjustments to be made on cdj's?
    The basic process is identical.

    Pitch bending on CDJs is a tiny bit more controllable. You don't have to worry about bumping the deck so hard it skips. If you go to far, you can immediately start bending the other way. Basically…you can be more heavy-handed with it without screwing things up.

    Riding the pitch feels very close, though the changes happen faster. Imagine a turntable with damn near infinite torque.

    Good CDJ pitch faders are also more precise. So, once you're good enough, you have to babysit less. They also don't drift like some turntables can, but again, it doesn't matter if you don't already know what you're doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by cutflow View Post
    2. is it easier to get those two records you had trouble mixing on turntable, to mix well together using cdj's? can you get two tracks to stay longer in sync, with cdjs?
    Yes. Yes.

    But it's not a huge difference.

    Mixing can be tighter on CDJs with a little less babysitting. But it's not like an easy mix button you can press. If you take a while to beat match on TTs, it won't be much faster on CDJs.

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