Warping live recorded tracks

[Dohjo]

I have some old disco tracks that I either want to: a) extend b) warp to make the bpm steady c) both.

I've watched quite a lot of tutorials, but I can't seem to get it to work. I recently made a friend do it for me and he said it took him 30 mins. Problem is that I have to intuition on how to use Ableton. I've never used production software before, but I really want to be able to warp these tracks myself.


Any help would be appreciated.

[louietyj]

You could... warp every single note you can "see" to the right place and then afterwards try to see which markers you can remove without the whole thing going out of sync? :P

One marker at the start of each bar (except for extremely problematic areas) should be fine even for music with rubato.

[pokerdawg]

Tap in the bpm before you record it to the track and manipulate/warp the audio afterwards. Works for me when I sample vinyl.

[Razzlesnaz]

Maybe you should quantize the whole track against either a 1/16 or a 1/32 grid? I know I am trying to edit some funk tracks and I basically have to chop up the track into phrases, quantize each 1 or 2 bar loop and remix the entire track over a fixed 1/4 beat track. I am very curious as to what the successful process is for this, fixing the tempo of a live track.

[feedbackl00p]

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[the_bastet]

Learn to beatmatch and ride the pitch.

If you love this music, you are actually making it worse by warping (quantising) all the swing out of it.

Its funky because it swings.

This

[Bradleywhites]

This

do you have any suggestion except "this"
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[Dohjo]

Yo,

Thanks for the suggestions. I started with vinyl, so I'm able to ride the pitch. However, it still annoys me because I'm used to being able to leave the pitch control in order to EQ etc. This makes the mix sound better.

[Patch]

Can anyone provide me with 2 audio examples - 1 of a track with swing, un-warped, and 1 of the same track warped to remove the swing?

'Cos I've read about this a lot on the old interweb, but never REALLY came across tracks that have been spoiled by warping. UNLESS - the guy doing the warping has butchered the drums by using warp markers to take an off beat snare or kick and moving it onto the beat.

And I've warped some funky-ass tracks in my time (Earth, Wind and Fire, Roy Ayers, Bar-Kays, Funkadelic, etc...)

Swing, and poor drumming (by modern electronic music standards!) is not the same thing.

And, for some disco tracks, you really are better of just warping the intro and the outro, or, for that matter, making your own DJ edits of the track for mixing.

[feedbackl00p]

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