Harmonic mixing

[Calum]

play what sounds good to you, not just what a wheel tells you. sets will get so boring if everyone just does the same thing over and over

[Jester]

s there a site where I can download a club track according to its camelot key?

Beatport lists the "proper" keys in the track details. That's as close as you can get but I don't think you can search along that criteria.

the dude was a spammer mate

[SpeshulEd]

Most of the time it doesn't even matter and they may pick a song to play next soley because it is in the "right key" when 20 other songs that would fit much better get overlooked just because they key is "wrong" even though for the type of mixing or song structure it is completely irrelevant.

I found myself doing this quite often and is part of the reason why I got away from it.

Plus listening to mixes by guys that tour the world and play to hundreds of thousands of people and realizing they're not mixing in key finally convinced me that it's not what its cracked up to be.

Since I got my midi fighter and have been practicing with filters/effects, I'm now getting to the point where matching bpm's isn't even really necessary. Want to drop the bpm to slow things down, no problem, just throw some effects on and bam, perfect transition. The midi fighter makes things so easy. I just have to remember that not every song or transition needs effects.

[Camelot]

I also wonder, what about tracks that are not the exact same BPM ?

Changing the pitch on one of the two tracks will change its key, unless you activate the "key mode" on Traktor or "Master tempo" on CDJs.

And by activating these modes, you decrease the quality of the audio going out right ? So you would decrease the audio quality just to have matching keys ? That's silly.

Therefore, mixing in key is only viable when 2 tracks are on the same bpm ? Well, that's some heavy limitation here.

I don't think i'll ever bother about this, and just play what sounds good to me.

Speed differences of less than 2% are usually no problem when harmonic mixing. This means that 128 BPM tracks can harmonically mix with other tracks that are naturally between 126 to 130 BPM while maintaining harmonic integrity.

You can sometimes get away with speed differences of up to 3%, but such mixes WILL tend to sound sour. This kind of "sour" still sounds better than mixing tracks in highly incompatible keys

A speed difference of 6% means that matching speeds will change tracks by one semitone or "half-step." That's the difference between an E-Flat and an E. This is a useful technique in the advanced harmonic mixing technique of region shifting (see http://www.camelotsound.com/Advanced.aspx ).

BTW: If you mix melodies in supposedly compatible keys, and the mix sounds sour, there is a high probability that keys are misreported. This highlights the advantages of using musician-keyed information rather than software-keyed information.

[racoon]

Most of the time it doesn't even matter and they may pick a song to play next soley because it is in the "right key" when 20 other songs that would fit much better get overlooked just because they key is "wrong" even though for the type of mixing or song structure it is completely irrelevant.

I found myself doing this quite often and is part of the reason why I got away from it.

same here ;P

have used it a time and got away from it again to just trust my ears and feeling

[WTFumbles]

After reading this thread, I feel like the only person there that's found harmonic mixing to be beneficial... I've only been doing this for a few months but harmonic mixing seems to help 100% for cutting... just my opinion :/

[Camelot]

After reading this thread, I feel like the only person there that's found harmonic mixing to be beneficial... I've only been doing this for a few months but harmonic mixing seems to help 100% for cutting... just my opinion :/

Many people find it to be helpful, including leading DJs, but some people are like the Catholic Church attacking Galileo.

"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei (1564 - 1642)

[SirReal]

s there a site where I can download a club track according to its cameltoe?

I think I fixed it.

[Jester]

lol.

now back to the topic at hand eh

[keithace]

Many people find it to be helpful, including leading DJs, but some people are like the Catholic Church attacking Galileo.

"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." - Galileo Galilei (1564 - 1642)

oh puhleaze...