We dont book DJ's that use controllers!

**Lecko** · 08-02-2010, 05:28 AM

The club I play at he doesn't like the main room DJ's using laptops, controllers etc, But I have held a residency for 5 years in room2 using laptop, controller etc (started on cdj's) but because he knows I play well with my setup he has no issues now.

I think his main beef was that the main room dj's hadn't really done the laptop, controller thing properly and always had crashes etc (pc's) so he couldn't rely on them to do a 6 hour set without any issues

**Phil Morse** · 08-02-2010, 07:11 AM

Just like when you plug your MP3 player into your car stereo on newer cars, maybe DJ booths will start having a panel where you can plug into their mixer easily.

Will save having to get on your knees with a torch to find that elusive Line In while trying not to jog the decks...

**Rokku** · 08-02-2010, 12:43 PM

Seems to me that DJing is still a performance and like all performances, image plays a key role. I don't just own 1 bass and 1 amp. I own 2 4 strings, 1 5 string, 1 6 string, and 1 upright. I have my ampeg all tube rig and my aguilar rig. sure the basses sound a little different and so do the amps, but really it's more about the image. If i'm playing rock, out comes the 4 string fender jazz and the ampeg rig. playing jazz music, better get a different rig out. It's all about how it looks. I'm a good bass player, and I could play on $25 setup and rock out, but that's not getting me the gig. yes, it's stupid, but it's the way the world turns and you have to understand that if you're trying to get the gig.

I don't agree with it though, I think skills should be the only thing that matters, but I know that a lot of people think you can judge that by gear.

**canon1nd** · 08-02-2010, 01:42 PM

just open your mind a little bit .... Your life will be happier

**jimbob5000** · 08-03-2010, 01:57 AM

To be fair to promoters and club owners, some of them may have their reasons to be that negative about Digitial DJing. They probably had bad experiences. People with crashing computers leading to silent PAs for painful minutes, people who got their whole music collection from soulseek in 128 kbit which sounded horrible, people who simply couldn't mix or overdid the whole FXing - and cuepoint-juggling-thing without even doing it very well. Hell, I'm not a promoter and I've seen it all. And to be honest, some comments here are just as arrogant as those promoters who turn their back on you for using midi controllers may seem to you. No pun intended.

Sure, some of them might just be stupid pricks, though. No doubt about that.

In my experience, they only want to know first if you are actually capable of DJing the oldschool way, for whatever reason. If you want gigs, cope with it. Show them that you have skills, and you usually won't have a problem when you show up with your laptop and controller at the second or third gig.

Anyway, using CDJs isn't that different from using a controller, as long as you know how to beatmatch and you know your tracks, so get over it and get one to practice their handling a bit. It doesn't have to be a CDJ2000, so money isn't as much of a factor as it used to be. Some of them even double as a nice extra midi controller, so why not? Sure, a CDJ may be old technology to a lot of people who started DJing with a controller. But it's proven, it's always around in clubs almost anywhere in the world and in a worst case scenario, an extra CD wallet in your gig bag is a great safety net. So why ignore them, just because they're sooo yesterday?

**GPS** · 08-03-2010, 10:05 AM

Funny part is they'll likely "forget" about that when, say, steve aoki, eli smith, computer club, or hot pink delorean are in town and they want to book thm

Gianmarco

**R2D2** · 08-03-2010, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by JesC

oh boy...just join the stupid club...either play on cds or learn how to play on serato.

1. Download & Install Serato http://serato.com/downloads
2. Download Serato CD Timecode CD (.wav) http://rane.com/scratchlivecontrol.zip
3. Setup playlist/cue points/analyze you tracks on offline mode
4. Learn how to play on serato on the clubs gear or hook up with fellow djs that use SSL

Make a name for yourself and once you become a known dj, the promoters & club owners dont give a rats ass what you play on. I've been djing for some time and i regularly play in clubs & bars. You can either join them or not get gigs and do everything the hard way, Its simple as that.

I am not trying to be a dick, but I see how promoters see it, because I also promote too. Most DJ's that play on traktor/virtual dj etc & a midi controller are usually rookie djs that dont know how to hook shit up or are using a crack copy of the software, blah blah blah. Once the dj has made a name for themselves they can show up and do a whole night on ableton and they would even question what you are doing.

Mis Dos Pesos!

Well said ! and very true

Its a shame that some of this so called " New Breed" do not want to do that because they have to learn to beat match !

**GPS** · 08-03-2010, 11:15 AM

wait, u can DL serato for free?!?!?!?!?!?!

also: wait, can the VCI 100 SE control serato through the audio 2?!?!??!?

Gianmarco

ps: nvm, googled ang got an answer, jsut that this computers internet sucks