Controller Overload - It's all the same!!

[BradCee]

damn if I'm not tired of all the vci-100 clones

but are they vci-100 clones? didn't anyone else have a controller with jogs out first? when you think about it, it's not so much a clone as just fairly straightforward and standard layout, mixer controls, jog wheels, pitch fader. just typical emulation of a traditional set-up. yeah the vci was the first to be taken seriously and a few other companies may have stepped their game up, but it's either that layout or something like an apc with lots of buttons and faders.

it's like saying that all tt's are 1210 clones, or all cdjs are 1000 clones (ok a lot are very similar so not best example - but you i think you get my point)

[haze324]

what kills me about the VCI-100 "clones" is they come set up for traktor --- but they are all missing a button or a knob they should have. Reloop is coming out with a new controller this weekend called Mixage and man it looks pretty good for a "standard" type mixer, eq, jog, pitch set up. But for traktor it's missing 1-2 knobs. I think you could consider them VCI "clones" because they are aiming to work as well as the VCI does with TP.

[sarasin]

I am also not one to jump on the LATEST gear bandwagon.

I can do what I need to do with my current setup.

Sure, it would be nice to have dedicated sections for specifics like sampling etc ....like the S4....but i can do it now.

So no need to get the latest.....unless it really will make a difference to my sets and how I play.

I am not the Whizz you are Zac....but I agree with you.

[Karlos Santos]

You should look at the BCR/BCF controllers and that shiny new Xone mixer.

That, or the Xone 3D or 4D

I think that might just be a list of the kind of clone controllers Zac is talking about (despite them all being quite old now).

The thing with these "VCI" clones is they are made to sell units.
The VCI has sold really well but if company can cobble one together for half the price they may think they can sell lots of them.


I dont know whether the VCI 100 was a stroke of semi-genius or just a happy coincednce that it works really well with Traktor.
Most of these clones that are "made for Traktor' are far from it.

The only Kontroller that gives a totally natural feel over Traktor is the KS4 which is obviously made for the job and it does the job a lot better than even the VCI depending on the usage case (not talking about arcade routines).

Other than that its what guys on here are doing to adapt controller that have more flexibilty of simply just a lot of buttons and knobs that is more exciting that some VCI clone.

Im quite glad that im not coming into Digital DJing right now because the choice of controllers is bewilldering. Its easy to use an experienced eye, some of us guys can spot a mistake a mile off.

I imagine that this forum is gonna get pretty busy around Xmas with guys asking "why is the VCI100se Acrade Edition $800 when the Casio T4 controller is FREE with 10 packs of Corn Flakes, they look similar"

[Golden Smith]

The most important thing to consider is what type of motor is in your kit, brushed or brushless. There are hub-motor bike conversion kits in both types. A brushless motor kit will not work with a brush-type controller and vice versa.

[Karlos Santos]

^^Reported^^

[photojojo]

^^Reported^^

Me to!

[BradCee]

i want a vci now.... lol

and wasn't the vci-100 traktor 3 optimised, works well with tpro, but not quite as tight as it was with t3 imo - til you custom map that is...

[Karlos Santos]

Yeah it was for T3 although i only used my VCI for a short while with T3, its been all TPRO.
VCI overload !!!

[PartyMcFly]

I don't really care how many of the same two-jog/pitch fader/mixer/effects controllers there are out there as long as:

DVS is still around
EKS continues updating and refining the Otus series

Just as a reminder of how far DJ controllers have come, I tried to map my old KDJ500 last night for effects and deck C/D control in Traktor, and what a convoluted facking nightmare that was. External software, virtual midi cables, input/output conflicts, low quality faders, knobs, and encoders... it's good to have what we have today, kids.