Is it wrong to steal music u have already bought?

[Djtom420]

No need to bash one another. Its not like frogstar's 14 years with MTV did any good and Tom's theoretical music expertise is going to affect anything outside of microwaving another hot pocket. Lol :P

Tru, I really wasnt trying to bash.... Sorry if I came off that way.

[djfrogstar]

First off again MTV NEVER and I MEAN NEVER has really played anything that good. its mostly trendy poppy crap that the masses eat up with a spoon like its filed with corn syrup.

hey tom... so what kind of music do you like?



Sad thing is... and this is really sad ... but MTV has most of every video in existance digitized and in a database. Something we had access to.. called ARTBOX ..anyways.. if you put in a key word like Rave or jungle or whatever... 100s of videos would appear of all the artists who sent in their videos. All uncompressed PAL or NTSC full quality


There was only one time when mtv played good music.. That was in the UK and the show was called Chill out zone

some regular songs included

PHEX TWIN - "On" - (On EP)
10TH LEVEL - "Too Many People"
THE BLUE NILE - "Headlights On The Parade" - (Hats)
THE COMMUNARDS - "For A Friend" - (Red)
K.D. LANG - "So In Love" - (Red, Hot & Blue)
808 STATE - "Pacific State" - (Ninety)
DEAD CAN DANCE - "Yulunga (Spirit Dance)" - (Taken From The Film "Baraka" / Into The Labyrinth)
DEEP FOREST - "Deep Forest" - (Deep Forest)
FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - "Cascade" - (Lifeforms)
ORBITAL - "Lush 3-1" - (Orbital 2 (Brown Album))
NEW ORDER - "The Perfect Kiss" - (Low-Life)
ELECTROTETE - "I Love You" - (In Order To Dance 4)
ELECTRIC BOY - "Keep On Walking"
MILES DAVIS - "The Doo-Bop Song" - (Doo-Bop)
A MAN CALLED ADAM - "Barefoot In The Head" - (The Apple)
ONE DOVE - "White Love" - (Morning Dove White)
VIC REEVES - "Abide With Me"
BRIAN ENO - "Fractal Zoom" - (From The Longform Video "Future Shock" / Nerve Net)
MOBY - "Move" - (Move EP)
TALK TALK - "I Believe In You" - (Spirit Of Eden / The Very Best Of Talk Talk)
VERVE - "She's A Superstar" - (Verve EP)
BARNES & BARNES - "Fish Heads" - (Yeah: The Essential Barnes & Barnes)
THE NOTWIST - "Johnny & Mary" - (Johnny & Mary EP)
WARP RECORDS - "Sim Biotics" (AUTECHRE - "Basscadet") - (From The Longform Video "Motion")
FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - "Cascade" - (Lifeforms)
IAM - "Je Danse Le Mia" - (Ombre Est Lumière Volumes 1&2)
SOON E MC - "Au Nom Des Miens" - (Point De Vue.)
THE MAGI & EMANATION - "Everybody Say Love" - (Mindblowing 7)
MICHAEL BROOK FEAT. BRIAN ENO & ROGER ENO - "Breakdown" - (Cobalt Blue)
DEAD CAN DANCE - "The Carnival Is Over" - (Into The Labyrinth)
THE HIGHER INTELLIGENCE AGENCY - "Speedlearn" - (Future Shock (VHS) / Ambient Dub Vol. II - Earthjuice)
GARY CLAIL & ON-U SOUND SYSTEM - "The Emotional Hooligan" - (Emotional Hooligan)
JAH WOBBLE'S INVADERS OF THE HEART - "Becoming More Like God" - (Take Me To God)
THE HIGHER INTELLIGENCE AGENCY - "Speedlearn" - (Future Shock (VHS) / Ambient Dub Vol. II - Earthjuice)
ATLANTIC OCEAN - "Waterfall" - (Waterfall)\

here is a link to the rest..
http://www.mtv-chilloutzone.com/playlistarchive.htm

[Djtom420]

Sad thing is... and this is really sad ... but MTV has most of every video in existance digitized and in a database. Something we had access to.. called ARTBOX ..anyways.. if you put in a key word like Rave or jungle or whatever... 100s of videos would appear of all the artists who sent in their videos. All uncompressed PAL or NTSC full quality


There was only one time when mtv played good music.. That was in the UK and the show was called Chill out zone

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Yeah we never got Chill out zone, only MTV AMP. which was cool back in the day before I knew any better. but this was b4 DSL High speed so the net was still pretty small and this was one of the few avenues you could see EDM outside of a rave or club.

[djfrogstar]

Yeah we never got Chill out zone, only MTV AMP. which was cool back in the day before I knew any better. but this was b4 DSL High speed so the net was still pretty small and this was one of the few avenues you could see EDM outside of a rave or club.

also problem in america during the 90s was lasting hatred of disco which suppressed electronic music..
The rest of europe was sharing the whole wave of electronic videos only as a fad in MTVs eyes... not enough naked girls to give it prometime.. but it was there... and then it went when the programmer from Viva 2 left to become head of mtv germany.. and he hated electronic music.. I got him so mad at a company party he spilled his drink all overhimself.. just because I screamed for a breakbeat show.

everyweek mtv would literally throw out 100s of promo cds.. why. because there was no video. We used to just take the jewel cases and microwave the cds to make patterns. that or ebay till they banned us from doing that


the only exception to a video not costing 100s of 1000s of dollars or someone popular was SEX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_fCqg92qks

[Djtom420]

also problem in america during the 90s was lasting hatred of disco which suppressed electronic music..
The rest of europe was sharing the whole wave of electronic videos only as a fad in MTVs eyes... not enough naked girls to give it prometime.. but it was there... and then it went when the programmer from Viva 2 left to become head of mtv germany.. and he hated electronic music.. I got him so mad at a company party he spilled his drink all overhimself.. just because I screamed for a breakbeat show

Tru most americans suck when it somes to EDM, they think it all sounds the same.

[djfrogstar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbeFSYP2qsg

[Djtom420]

LOL i just saw this for the first time in that Documentary, Pump up the volume, the history of house. awsome doc if u havent seen it.

the funny thing is as bad as disco may have been lets face it the onslaught of American idol winners is enough to make u want to stab ur ear drums out with your headphone jack.

I wish someone would do this for american idol winners and Crap Pop country that every american ALL of the sudden started listening to in 2005.

[SirReal]

Careful, not every American, I can't stand either American Idol or Pop Country and I feel the state of music in America is abysmal. Just don't over generalize, please.

[keithace]

Careful, not every American, I can't stand either American Idol or Pop Country and I feel the state of music in America is abysmal. Just don't over generalize, please.

x 1 million

[djfrogstar]

Careful, not every American, I can't stand either American Idol or Pop Country and I feel the state of music in America is abysmal. Just don't over generalize, please.

my point was based on the reality of wolfman jack bearded deep voice stereotype disc jockeys hating disco and not retiring from their jobs in the pre internet radio station days. They had control over minimalizing what they thought was just modern disco. And this happened in america.. as the evidence shows with disco records being burned publicly.

trying to go back on topic.. your all going to die very soon anyways.. 2012 is right around the corner.. if you own the vinyl.. then DL it ... you will save yourself alot of time.. and time is money.. and if it comes down to it... show the vinyl as proof... but if you have 100k songs and a 2TB drive.. then you are fucked...

CBP can scan your hard drive if they want, there will be a point where they will be obligated to report supspicious amounts of data.. but its not at this point yet...

Thats why I used to travel with all my mp3s in a true crypt volume which no CBP will beable to forcebreak the encryption.. They can however make an image of the drive and send it to CIA. But this is only if your coming from a country on the list.. and look a stereotypical bad guy.
CBP is not looking for mp3s.. but they can by law take your drive... so better not have your shit out in the open

http://www.dhs.gov/journal/leadershi...er-laptop.html