torq 1.5

[Chilly]

In Traktor 3 you could set multiple beatgrid markers

And you can't in TPro?

[BentoSan]

And you can't in TPro?

If you can i havent worked it out lol - every time i set a new marker it replaces the first one i made. Then again i havent experiemented with this alot because i am mixing electronic music with constant tempos.

[Travis]

In Traktor 3 you could set multiple beatgrid markers

I edited my post, but just to clarify.. setting multiple beat-grids is not the same as warping / time-stretching via Z-Plane. You always have a jump or change in tempo with multiple beat-grids.

If you're syncing and quantization is enable you probably won't notice this jump in tempo much, but if the disparity in tempo change is large, you will notice. Torq is actually warping / stretching the music in time without audible glitching or sound quality loss.

[Chilly]

If you can i havent worked it out lol - every time i set a new marker it replaces the first one i made. Then again i havent experiemented with this alot because i am mixing electronic music with constant tempos.

Weird...I had no clue...maybe I missed all the posts on that in NI's forums.

Wait...it's a FEATURE!!! LOL

[Chilly]

I edited my post, but just to clarify.. setting multiple beat-grids is not the same as warping / time-stretching via Z-Plane. You always have a jump or change in tempo with multiple beat-grids.

If you're syncing and quantization is enable you probably won't notice this jump in tempo much, but if the disparity in tempo change is large, you will notice.

Looks like I'm gonna have to do a little research on Z-plane before I open my mouth to remove my foot.

[steveboyett]

When the stability of Traktor PRO reaches its peak I will consider playing it out. It just does too many weird things to warrant full time use of it right now.

I use Traktor 2.5.3. It's stable as hell, I can change key well over 50% with no artifacts, and change BPM at least as much. I can synch both decks to a master BPM (yeah, Torq, Traktor's been able to do this for about 5 years). It has stable and workable NMX recording (basically a kind of mega macro that records everything you do and then replays it while it saves as a wav file; it cuts down enormously on the resources it would take to record audio on the same PC you're playing from). No one will make me buy an M-Audio hardware product for it to be able to work.

But I wouldn't play out with Traktor 3x; it was never stable and too buggy. Except for the FX, I can do more with 2.5.3 than I ever could with T3x (though most DJs hate the ergonomics and workflow of T3x & TPro),and more reliably. Two decks working beats the hell out of four decks crashed.

And Traktor Pro is a POS that was laughably not ready for primetime.

[Travis]

Nothing like Ableton btw. Really bad comparison imo.

Its exactly what Ableton is doing, even using the same engine. How is that a bad comparison??

[Travis]

And Traktor Pro is a POS that was laughably not ready for primetime.

This is a harsh truth in my experience. Its too bad really, I was looking forward to it.

[Chilly]

Its exactly what Ableton is doing, even using the same engine. How is that a bad comparison??

Looks like I'm gonna have to do a little research on Z-plane before I open my mouth to remove my foot.

in case u missed it.

[steveboyett]

This is a harsh truth in my experience. Its too bad really, I was looking forward to it.

Same here. I read the feature set and the workflow looked great. But they're pretty much making people pay for a beta. A survey of the current NI Traktor forums is enough to send a prospective buyer screaming into the night.

It's very disappointing, but sadly not very surprising; NI has only continued the to broaden the disparity between what they promise with Traktor and what they're delivering.