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    Quote Originally Posted by smittten View Post
    And there you have. One of the most concise comments on the subject I have personally seen. It's not about vinyl, CD, DVS or Controller. It's not about SYNC or no SYNC. It's about feeling and how that translates to the floor. There will be many people who will be strict "controllerists" because they have no interest or ability in mixing using other setups - and that's fine. For those that come from a TT/CD background there will always be something missing. I am in the process of going of getting some TTs and going DVS as I spent years on decks as love the creative side of my S4 but am missing out on the feeling and the fun. .
    I went through a stage...like this....where i was more focused on the gear working than listening to the flow of my set and crowd.

    After getting new gear and finding what i actually want to be able to do in my sets, I have become more and more trusting in the gear and look at the screen less and less. Starting to gel with my whole rig now and starting to become 2nd nature....so i am back to focusing on the music.

    I know where everything is....its ready to go....and i just GO!



    I found this too when I was playing musical instruments when i was younger....you just close your eyes and go! Trust your ability.


    But with Controllers and Software etc...there is a lot that can go wrong etc and lots of things going on.. you need to be aware of.

    Once again....get used to it...trust it....and JAM.

    Look at DJ Inferno for instance....lots going on....but still flowing!

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    In all honesty the main thing that used to connect me to my music wasn't the tts, though that was a part of it, it was pulling out a set of records on vinyl before a gig and then being able to flip through them on the night, with an eye for the artwork etc. I just find it really hard to gel with the text on my laptop. Even with artwork enabled I just find myself struggling to feel what the tune should be without just dipping in to a tried and tested playlist.

    I used to get real feeling and vibe from records... I don't know what digital solution can help with that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin V View Post
    Twitch?

    BTW do you guys think that when Itch 2.0 is released there will be a free update for owners of the Twitch?


    ITCH has free updates for life just like SSL.
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxOne View Post
    I used to get real feeling and vibe from records... I don't know what digital solution can help with that...
    Attach your controller casing to the mains, or do something like this...

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    it won't be in Itch 2.0, although Itch 2.0 looks to have many similar features and look of SSL. All Itch and SSL updates are free.

    ...great to hear others feedback on this!
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    i am also an ex-Serato user
    i switched from serato (SL1) to traktor due to to traktor's extra features (beatgrid, beatjumps, effects, quantized hotcue jumps etc) but i do admit i miss the simplicity of Serato, in traktor to make full benefit of the features you have to do some extra work (setting up beatgrids etc which can get REALLY tedious at times, especially before traktor 2.0 came out, the wavorm was really hard to see for precise beatgrid application)

    I am now a full Traktor 2 convert, but every once in awhile when i look at new serato products (ie when the SL2 came out) i kinda think back of the road not taken (LOL) i mean the road I used to take, sounds cheesy i know but as much as i enjoy the extra features of Traktor 2 (which i now happily enjoy using) there's something about Serato's simplicity and overlapping waveforms that i really miss sometimes, especially when doing my "home work" ie beatgridding many many tunes at once

    anyhow just my two cents
    if you are already on traktor, stick with it
    if you are on serato stick with it

    its a win win situation for both, the more you try to think about which one to choose the more time you spent wasting on logistics rather than the actual music/mixing ( i know I did waste a lot of time in this department)
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    I'm a former Serato user as well and I played with it for the first time in years a couple weeks ago, and it was like nothing's changed (even though I was using the latest version). The software just gets out of your way in a way that Traktor never has for me. With Traktor I feel there is always a certain amount of baby sitting the software for me to do whereas I've never had that experience with Serato.

    SYNC is irrelevant to all this, in my opinion. For someone who started with vinyl, beatmatching is not a big deal -- if you know what you're doing and you know the songs you're beatmatching, actually doing it is trivial. Obviously it's a skill that it takes months of dedicated practice to learn well, but once you're there it's not a hell of a lot harder (though it can be a lot more fun) than pushing SYNC. Traktor is the more powerful software to me but I am starting to think Serato might be more less aggravation (and ultimately more fun)...

    Quote Originally Posted by DJZILCH View Post
    i am also an ex-Serato user
    i switched from serato (SL1) to traktor due to to traktor's extra features (beatgrid, beatjumps, effects, quantized hotcue jumps etc) but i do admit i miss the simplicity of Serato, in traktor to make full benefit of the features you have to do some extra work (setting up beatgrids etc which can get REALLY tedious at times, especially before traktor 2.0 came out, the wavorm was really hard to see for precise beatgrid application)

    I am now a full Traktor 2 convert, but every once in awhile when i look at new serato products (ie when the SL2 came out) i kinda think back of the road not taken (LOL) i mean the road I used to take, sounds cheesy i know but as much as i enjoy the extra features of Traktor 2 (which i now happily enjoy using) there's something about Serato's simplicity and overlapping waveforms that i really miss sometimes, especially when doing my "home work" ie beatgridding many many tunes at once

    anyhow just my two cents
    if you are already on traktor, stick with it
    if you are on serato stick with it

    its a win win situation for both, the more you try to think about which one to choose the more time you spent wasting on logistics rather than the actual music/mixing ( i know I did waste a lot of time in this department)
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    Quote Originally Posted by djproben View Post
    it was like nothing's changed (even though I was using the latest version).
    Just curious - but did you have the plugins enabled? The SP-6 sampler and FX racks hide themselves quite nicely to free up space.
    And of course, The Bridge is quite a beast in the interface now if that's enabled as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jprime View Post
    Just curious - but did you have the plugins enabled? The SP-6 sampler and FX racks hide themselves quite nicely to free up space.
    And of course, The Bridge is quite a beast in the interface now if that's enabled as well.
    and..

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    I went from Traktor to Seratro and I am now back in Traktor.

    I bought a Rane 68 in January, and after waiting 6 months for Windows 7 Asio Drivers I am about to sell the fucking thing. I bought a Rane product not a Serato paperweight but the camps are so closely tied that they won't release beta drivers to their best customers. I don't get it. They had asio drivers for products that had not been released, but not their most expensive product? I understand I am in the minority a PC DJ but just give us the betas.

    Traktor's looping is far superior and beat grids are more accurate. That's my style loops. I can't say I did not make a huge effort and investment into Serato, I used it exclusively for 6 months on top of the line hardware, but the software is not as good as traktor pro, I have yet to try pro 2.

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    thank you guys for not turing this into a ssl vs tp2 thread. i love traktor, but SSL is my program of choice
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