Unprepared DJ's

[PartyMcFly]

DJing is a disposable hobby for these kinds of people. They will buy disposable gear and play disposable music, and they will weed themselves out before long.

I've always seen DJing as a symptom of being an obsessive and pedantic music nerd. Not the other way around. DJs have a lot of social currency right now in popular culture so a lot of folks want to be one. Immediately.

I just replied in a "what should I play at my 80's night" thread. I was nice and helpful but I did have other things to say.

[Sherlock Ohms]

an obsessive and pedantic music nerd.

You rang?

[PartyMcFly]

You rang?

Calling all DJs. Please report to the latest "KIDS THESE DAYS" rant thread.

[Karlos Santos]

Well when i started DJing things were different and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
WHO CARES.

This is the internet. Its a HUGE resource for lazyness. We have disposable culture problem.
DJing is no different to any other hobby or job. Young people want it all now and for free and have no shame.

We all contribute by putting our knowledge online. That doesnt mean i dont want to slap some people on this forum cus i do. Lots of times, slap slap slap slap.

But i aint surprised or gonna get all shocked at the lazyness of a generation that knows no better than having things handed on a plate.

Having tunes and gear does not make you a DJ or especially a good DJ that will get gigs.
I have tunes, gear and loadsa gigs so i see these threads by people asking for it on a plate and i either help cus i like to spout on the interent (although not so much at the moment) or i ignore it but im not gonna get bent out of shape and go on about the "old days" cus no-one is listening.

Just ignore it. Or try and convince people to do the hard work but whining about it is pointless.

[this is not aimed at any particular poster or post, its simply my brain emptying onto the page]

[Threefeet]

DJTT needs a "Kids These Days" thread I think

While I think there are definite differences in the current generation compared to the last as regards entitlement, kids will be kids. I think most of us were dumbasses as kids but we had enormous potential, just like the current generation. I think a bit of positivity about kids is missing, I'm genuinely excited to see what they will be doing in ten years time with DJing. They're a very unique generation in that they grew up on technology whereas we, for the most part, were introduced to it.

Anyone remember when it was cool to have a guitar? Now it's decks. Kids will be kids

[Cook]

If you don't have training or at least someone mentoring you, how else are you supposed to learn?

Sometimes people think that they're ready, only to realize they missed something. If you don't have a mentor or training, then I can't see any other way to learn except by doing. You can be the #1 bedroom DJ in the world, but you can't teach yourself how to DJ outside if you've never been outside.

How do you think we all learned when we were starting out? ok, fair enough i bought a pair of techs and played hand-me-down vinyl from a mate, Who showed me basically how to beatmatch, i still had to go home and spend hours and hours learning how to do what and how to do it right, how did i learn to use CDJs? good/bad habits? i went into the club and watched a guy playing, for weeks, i knew the basic principals of DJing but watching other DJs nurtures you. Plus theres half a million youtube vids these days on how to dj, go watch them.

[deevey]

Anyone remember when it was cool to have a guitar? Now it's decks. Kids will be kids

It used to be decks 15 years ago .. I used to be selling about 20 - 30 sets of Kam or Gemini boxsets a week alongside 10 backorders for techs.




These days its cool to have Utorrent .. and "maybe" a midi controller if they can figure it out*.

In seriousness though at least there was an initial outlay for your vinyl and equipment so you had to be either stupid, rich or save your pennies which there just isn't anymore.




*cough by coming to DJTT*

[Sherlock Ohms]

They're a very unique generation

Totally off topic, but this phrase is one of my major bugbears ... something is either unique, or it's not.

'Unique' is from the French meaning single/solitary which itself is from the Latin unicus meaning single/sole from unus meaning "one"

If there's there's more than one it's not unique, making 'very' unique a tautology ... GAH

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[AdamPollard55]

it depends. playing out of your comfort zone is good for many reasons. but there's definitely a limit

[Jason Cerna]

being knee deep in the digital age, these same kids will get bored and move on to some other flavor of the month "hobby."

since most of them have never started on vinyl records, they have no real appreciation for their consumption of music as a dj. so much is available at a mouse click, they lose that connection with actually searching for a track that they think will really be hot. their mindset is quantity over quality.

also, being "digitally spoonfed" from online forums is a problem. not saying that forums do not help, they are a great resource. but, many kids think everything will be handed to them and all they have to do is jesus pose and profit.

all of this shows in their track selection or rather, lack thereof. they sit there and wonder why they can't program a solid mix together. that rolls over to why they can't get gigs, because they have no clue about networking.

this industry is about give and take. before you can take something from it, you have to give a lot of yourself to it.