More respects using Turntables?

[Kupujte_Pytle]

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Those Club owners or radio station managers are wrong. It's their fault they can't keep up with current technology progress. What difference does it make to show beatmatching by using S4 as a mixer with DVS turntables pluged into it instead of their "old" analogue mixer... there is no difference between serato and traktor system actually...

[DigitalDevil]

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Those Club owners or radio station managers are wrong. It's their fault they can't keep up with current technology progress. What difference does it make to show beatmatching by using S4 as a mixer with DVS turntables pluged into it instead of their "old" analogue mixer... there is no difference between serato and traktor system actually...

Because they already have all the stuff set up there. It doesn't make sense catering to anyone (even if its minor), if there are other people to fit the bill with what you've got. Not saying its "right", but its business.

[JesC]

Ill tell you why most clubs use a DJM-800 & CDJs/1200s w/a serato box. Cause its easy to switch over, not drama. Its very basic, you play a regular cd or vinyl while you switch over djs. Ive seen some djs open iTunes and drop a intro by hooking up 1/8" to RCA to open channel or line in.

If you want to WOW them, pick up some dicers from the DJTT store and do some cue point juggles, loop rolls, etc.

[ksandvik]

Because they already have all the stuff set up there. It doesn't make sense catering to anyone (even if its minor), if there are other people to fit the bill with what you've got. Not saying its "right", but its business.

... want value out from their investments, eh? Well, just wait a couple of years and this gear is obsolete and the club owners will save money by insisting on visiting DJS to bring their own controllers (money talks.)

[DigitalDevil]

... want value out from their investments, eh? Well, just wait a couple of years and this gear is obsolete and the club owners will save money by insisting on visiting DJS to bring their own controllers (money talks.)

Don't think CDJs and Techs will be "obsolete" anytime soon lol... its so much easier to have a standard setup that everyone is familiar with

[ksandvik]

Don't think CDJs and Techs will be "obsolete" anytime soon lol... its so much easier to have a standard setup that everyone is familiar with

So they said about Technics, too...

My prediction. More up-and-coming DJs bring their own gear to gigs. Club owners realize they could save money by just telling any DJ to bring their own controller and all they put in place is a PA, simple mixer and space for controllers/synths and laptops.

This transition will also escalate when the club owners just don't bother about fixing broken CDJs or getting new ones in place. I'm excluding all kinds of super-DJs that always will have their wish list about equipment.

I think in the early days it didn't make sense for touring DJs to bring Technics or even CDJs/mixers to the club bigs. Now with laptops and even S4 is reasonable (not to big) it's quite doable for DJs to bring their personal equipment. Even when flying.

I could compare this to bars, they don't exactly provide guitars and guitar amps for visiting bands. Some actually have a drum kit.

[CaptainMidnight]

Don't think CDJs and Techs will be "obsolete" anytime soon lol... its so much easier to have a standard setup that everyone is familiar with

This

[haze324]

Don't think CDJs and Techs will be "obsolete" anytime soon lol... its so much easier to have a standard setup that everyone is familiar with

This.

It's not about the investment into the equipment. It's about investing in the piece of mind that the club set up works AND many DJ's can all use it.

If you bring in an S4 and the owner has no clue what it is, why would he trust that your S4 is just as good as the equipment he invested in. He is safe knowing his shit works. Now imagine an S4 this week, and NS7 next week, a DIY controller another and all this time a DJM-800 and two CDJ-2000's are sitting there.

Not gonna happen. And really there are PLENTY of DJ's that can rock a tight set with the house set up, in fact there's probably more DJ's than clubs -- so it's not up to them to cater to us.

UNLESS ---- your a headliner and then anything goes.

It's all business and the club making money.

[DigitalDevil]

So they said about Technics, too...

But Techs got replaced by another standard (not to mention that many venues still have house TTs, anyways). And as stated above, there's no point trusting random gear and dealing with changeover messes while there's a slew of DJs ready to just walk in and play on what's already there.

Guess its kind of senseless to argue as only time will tell, but I'm seeing quite a distant future for clubs to abandon standard in-house setups entirely. A couple grand up front investment is peanuts for how much the gear pays out over the years its used.

[MrPopinjay]

Wait what? Turntables are obsolete and have been replaced? what now ksandvik?