Cracked DVS Software

[Monika.mhz]

I don't think finding ways around copyright is the solution. I think buying software is the solution, personally.

I like the way Serato runs it. Anyone can download the software, but you need compatible hardware to use it. So the club can install one, and all 6 of their DJs can download it and each one can use it at the club without the club having to drop 400 bucks on each DJ.

[Karlos Santos]

I don't think finding ways around copyright is the solution. I think buying software is the solution, personally.

I like the way Serato runs it. Anyone can download the software, but you need compatible hardware to use it. So the club can install one, and all 6 of their DJs can download it and each one can use it at the club without the club having to drop 400 bucks on each DJ.

I completely disagree (with the Serato bit). I was amazed to find that both the SSL & Itch Demos are glorified iTunes. You cant mix, you dont get any feel for the software.
Nevermind getting a club to install the hardware, in the UK that just isnt going to happen. Maybe the licence agreement is good but at least with other software you can actually DJ with which is the whole bloody point of a Demo , you get to see and feel what it can do for a limited time.

In 'another place' i listen to a LOT of nonsense about Serato being this forward thinking company and all i seem to be able to pin that down to is that they do more Public Beta than others.

Im not suprised that most of the talk about using Cracked software is about Traktor and Ableton because whats the point of cracked Serato?
Im asking a valid question here, im not being an arse. Id like to know , are there Cracked Versions of Serato that enable both players that dont need the hardware???
I only ask because i dont know. I dont use cracked sofware, i dont need to .
I am genuinely curious .

And all this talk about 'licences' WTF come on guys. Just because its software and its not really tangible , you cant see the crime as much as other crime.
I have a driving licence but if i lend it to a minor it doesnt make it ok (or even cool) to let them drive the bloody car. ITS MY LICENCE.

I don't think finding ways around copyright is the solution. I think buying software is the solution, personally

Damn Straight Sister

[Monika.mhz]

woah woah woah. I was talking about LICENSING. I think serato's demo is the opposite of what needs to be done. However their solution for licensing I think is better.

You saw what I wrote before, I like the idea of FULLY functional 90 day demos.

If there was a way to incorporate the concept of what Serato does with their hardware based solution with a fully functional 90 day demo, I'd <3 that.
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Also, there are no cracked versions of Serato that I know of. By focusing sooo heavily on a hardware solution they've pretty much prevented that.

Personally though, I never would have purchased SSL if I couldn't have used it for 2 months in the club for free first. (The club had a serato box installed, so I just downloaded the FREE software and tested it at the club)

[Karlos Santos]

Lol your right, i jumped a bit quick. My bad.

The whole Serato Demo thing just gets me fired up. Its totally pointless. At least when people started banging on about Deckadance i could actually try it out and then have some reason to laugh at people when they claim it rocks.

Ive actually like Serato (i whispered that dont tell anyone) because its just turntablism which is where i began.

But anyhoo, i stand by your point about the Demo period and that buying the software is the right thing to do. I think companies need to get more inventive with how they get new users to buy the product but i will never agree with all this "all companies are evil man" & "im cool cus i steal software" attitude. It hurts us all in the end.
Total respect DJTT for allowing this discussion.

[mtvstinks]

I am curious what DVS software can you demo with out hardware or tcv? TS does not allow this and yes like you mention Serato does not have the solution.

[Karlos Santos]

Yeah for DVS you need some hardware . But at least with all versions of Traktor ( and other brands ) you can mix with 2 decks and use a certain amount of the effects/loops and other features to get a feel even if it is with the keyboard (even with Deckadance).

I use my mates Serato when go to see him, i like it but if i had no access like that id have no way of knowing if i prefer Vertical or Horizontal waveforms for just a start.

[slight off topic sorry]

[mtvstinks]

Thanks Karlos. I aggree with the NI demo model. I like full feature demos this allowed me to get an idea of the software features. And because of that I did purchase full version of Traktor.

[midian]

I think open source and boutique software holds a lot of potential and is a good direction to look into. Much of this software is becoming more and more professional, and tbh I think is often far more cutting edge then the corporate stuff, as well as having more room to grow (no overheads and potentially hundreds of developers).

In saying that DAW software is just too epic for that sort of thing atm, so IMO support that software with your money. 90 day full trials that turn into full version that cannot be saved is the best way to roll this shit. People should have learned enough in 3 months to decide if they want to buy it or not.

[rdej47]

I was using Traktor 3 and then moved on to TSPRO. I couldn't possibly live without it. I continue to use a cracked version of TSPRO because I technically bought it when I purchased the Traktor Scratch package with the Audio 8 and the vinyls and cds. Which was after I had been using pro for a while. Once school is finished I plan to buy the license from online for about 200 something.

[rvltion909]

I used to use a cracked version of Deckadance for a short time. Mainly because I want a fully functional version of the thing (not a chirp...not one that quits in 30 min, etc). It was mainly for the money aspect. It was when I 1st began the transition to digital.

I then tried the traktor pro demo, bought it and never looked back.

I dont usually do the crack thing...if it was easier I defnitely would for pretty much the same reason I'll download a track that is territory restricted. I want to demo something and make sure that the product Im dumping $500 bloody dollars on works, is what I thought it would be, is right for me and is what I was led to believe it was. Screw all this "we'll release a beta version for full price right now and iron out the details/bugs later....if we feel like it." I've seen MANY major software companies do this...from Microsoft down to the little indy guys. Right now ALL my software is paid for......and paid for a fucking lot!

Software developers deserve to be paid for their product just like anybody else .