Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread

[mostapha]

I don't necessarily agree, better tools in the hands of a good DJ will make for better sets. Sure that same DJ would put out a killer set on a $400 mixer, but put a DB4 in his hands and the set would undoubtedly be better. If not what's the point in spending $2500 on a mixer?

This is probably academic, but I disagree with the "undoubtedly" part. Like…vehemently.

I don't particularly care for the layout of the DB4, and I wouldn't use most of its features. I don't remember the last time I turned on an effect, and it's missing the high-mid EQ from the 62 and 92 that I love so much (if I bother using EQs at all, it's the first one I touch).

There's at least one $400 mixer that I would buy before I'd buy the db4, hands down. There are also a handfull of other $2500 mixers that I'd buy over either of them if money were no object, but the important thing is not that the tools are objectively better/worse on their own but that the tools are better at letting the artist express his/her vision.

The best thing I can say about any artistic tool I use is that it gets the f*** out of my way and lets me just do whatever it is that I'm trying to do. And I don't think a $2500 mixer gets the f*** out of the way better than a $400 mixer just because it costs 6 times as much or has a bunch more features.

If it does that for you, great. Awesome. I just have an academic problem with assuming that would be the case for everybody.

[MrPopinjay]

I like you mostapha, I never would have managed to express that so well.

[oliosky]

I bet you like him.... You pedants seem to flock together.

[MrPopinjay]

Nonsense! I don't care for rotary mixers at all ;P

[photojojo]

This is probably academic, but I disagree with the "undoubtedly" part. Like…vehemently.

I knew when I said that someone would come along and disagree.

[MaxOne]

However it is not a reason not to get awesome pieces of technology that make the whole process more fun, enjoyable, reliable, and sound better regardless of whether or not it could be done with other gear.

Lol at reliable surely?! It's faulty.

This whole thread isn't about being a better DJ, it's about gear lust.

Nothing wrong with that but is what it is.

I don't see xonetacular posting loads of links to mixes he has made... Just pics of gear.

But this is a Dj gear dedicated site. So if you can't post and chat about gear here then where can you?

[MyUsername]

What makes you think that people don't already know that..?
Pretty sure the guys around here know that. They are just discussing technology which is kinda that point of the forum, to a degree.

Your point sounds a little condescending to me dude. Yeah..?

Just wanted to awnser the question in the first post, new expensive gear versus what he already has.
I think nearly every DJ knows what I said, I would just hate to see him spend a huge amount of money because he might regret it later, I know I would really regret it today if I had bought a pioneer set up a few months ago.

[Afterhour Ali]

@Xone: How long will it take to for them to replace it?

This thread is great. I almost felt all the anticipation in here.

While you're at it:
Please convince me to return my DJM2000 and get the DB4! I decided not to get CDJ 2000s because they suck so there's no need for a Pioneer-mixer anymore.

[photojojo]

Please convince me to return my DJM2000 and get the DB4! I decided not to get CDJ 2000s because the sucks so there's no need for a Pioneer-mixer anymore.

Do it!

[Afterhour Ali]

Does djm2000 allow u to use traktors midi clock? I just got confirmation after months from pioneer yesterday that djm900 does not have this option which seems ridiculous. U can send midi clock but not receive. But since their autobpm detect sucks, its not workable. Crazy how this gets traktor certified...

Good point, I'll check it once I'm at home.

I start working for NI next year and will try to Traktor-certify the DJM2000 myself (for myself).