Ean Golden ** LIVE Performance ** in SF, California. Dec 7th

**the shmobletons** · 11-29-2011, 08:40 PM

@aplus... correction, ill be rockin the dual vci100 arcades, not dual vci300s.

**Jester** · 11-30-2011, 05:36 AM

awesome !

**Conall** · 11-30-2011, 07:33 AM

Giving the s4 a little more credit than its due IMO. The only real edge that the s4 has over other controllers is the tight integration with traktor.

**aplus** · 11-30-2011, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by the shmobletons

@aplus... Correction, ill be rockin the dual vci100 arcades, not dual vci300s.

yeeee

**aplus** · 11-30-2011, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Conall

Giving the s4 a little more credit than its due IMO. The only real edge that the s4 has over other controllers is the tight integration with traktor.

You and will_d have a good point, but tight integration with traktor was something that was needed to make controllers go mainstream. Not everyone has the knowledge or know how to find/download/tweak mappings.

**Xonetacular** · 11-30-2011, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by aplus

@Will_D looks like xponent might have beaten s4 to market, but I dont think it made nearly the waves that S4 did. And its hard to deny Ean's involvement in creating the market trend that helped create the xponent and s4.

I just checked and the Xponnent came out in fall of 2007 and the earliest post on djtechtools forums are from march 2008 with the blog a bit before around the time the xponnent came out, so it's safe to say he had little to nothing to do with it. The xponnent was the first all in one controller with soundcard with complete software integration that really made controller DJing accessible and set the framework for everything else to come including the S4 years later.

Originally Posted by aplus

You and will_d have a good point, but tight integration with traktor was something that was needed to make controllers go mainstream. Not everyone has the knowledge or know how to find/download/tweak mappings.

The xponnent had complete integration with Torq 3 years before the S4 came out, not to mention all the itch controllers like the NS7 and VCI-300 before the S4. i think the xone: DX also came before the S4, it wasn't as revolutionary as you think and NI was actually last to the game by quite a bit.

**aplus** · 12-01-2011, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Xonetacular

I just checked and the Xponnent came out in fall of 2007 and the earliest post on djtechtools forums are from march 2008 with the blog a bit before around the time the xponnent came out, so it's safe to say he had little to nothing to do with it. The xponnent was the first all in one controller with soundcard with complete software integration that really made controller DJing accessible and set the framework for everything else to come including the S4 years later.

The xponnent had complete integration with Torq 3 years before the S4 came out, not to mention all the itch controllers like the NS7 and VCI-300 before the S4. i think the xone: DX also came before the S4, it wasn't as revolutionary as you think and NI was actually last to the game by quite a bit.

ok ill concede to everyone that S4 didnt invent the category, but its made for
- 4 channel mixing
- tight traktor integration
- plug and play with 1 usb cable

ya theres the xone dx and that denon thing but imo they arent ergonomic and the buttons look cheap and they dont have 8 cue buttons. 4 cue buttons is a showstopper for me. Plus serato is kinda weak for controllerism, not that many effects, only 2-3 decks for the longest time, crappy UI and layout.

S4 was the first well made all-in-one 4 channel traktor controller.

The only thing that is on the same level as S4 is the yet to be release vci 400, which im keeping my eye on. cus on thing that bugs me bout s4 is they locked down the mapping. I understand that might have been necc. to get it out the door, but its been over a year and frankly Ean doesnt even use S4, a machine he designed and i think its got alot to do with the fact the mapping is locked down. I mean thats what DJTT is all about, making sick mappings for sick hardware. Glad to see VCI taking advantage of this glaring problem with S4. I may be a convert.

**aplus** · 12-05-2011, 04:10 PM

were only 2 days away and im super excited for Ean's performance. It will be a great opportunity to see him at his finest headlining an event on a banging sound system.

He doesnt do that many performances so if you live in the northern california area dont miss out on this one. Ticket presales are only 5$ at http://bit.ly/cyvtix, and door tickets will be 7$.

YEE