Xone: DB4- the official unofficial thread

[Xonetacular]

Also in classic fx mode is the regular way to enter killsend mode disabled? To use killsend in this firmware do you have to be in killsend fx mode in the menu? I can't seem to enter it by holding down the delay button and fx adjust like on the last version.

[DJ Bob]

thanks for this mix architekt!

the new cue mode is great. it allows you to use the channel cues in the same way as the pioneer djm mixers work - if you press the cue, the channel stays 'latched' on until you press it again and it turns off. no more having to press 2 or 3 channel cues at exactly the same time to monitor them!

also, cdj 'hot' input fixed! - the trim now sits around 12 o'clock as it should, instead of on the lowest setting.

the rotary option is just amazing. i still can't believe you managed to do that!

not had chance to play with the fx yet but what a great update. the best mixer just got a LOT better and i get the impression that there is a lot more to come this year.

[Marc Pole]

Sorry for my bad English
I can not decide between the DB2 and DB4.

DB2
two effect units are sufficient. (for me)
I can loop with tractor.
Filter can also used if Dry / Wett stands to 0.

- The EQ mode can only be set globally via the menu.

What reason is there to buy the DB4?

I use only tractor, no CDJ or a turntable.

[JDFS]

• Dual filter mode obviously, can be used together with the FX unit, but isn't attached to the FX unit, like on the DB2;
• Changing EQ-modes on the fly comes in handy, but via the menu isn't too bad either;
• The VU-meters are twice the size of the DB2, comes in handy for setting the trim/gain;
• EQ-knobs light up in different colors, depending on the EQ-mode;
• 4 different FX units are just amazing, but I can understand you do with 2.

I don't want a DB2 anymore, just because I can't do without the filters, they are just too amazing on the DB4. Sure, you can set the EQ to Filter mode, but having two different VCF-filters on both sides of the mixer in combination with the standard EQ/isolator is just amazing for clean and nice mixing.

It's a difference in price like € 500 (in Europe), but if you go for a Specialty Product, I think you can spend the 500 extra! With the DB2 I just think you'd always have a feeling like "This is not a DB4".

[freaK^]

Im guessing its not possible to use the D/W knob as rotary and for FX on the same channel?

[Xonetacular]

Im guessing its not possible to use the D/W knob as rotary and for FX on the same channel?

Nope, not sure why you would want to do it like that.

thanks for this mix architekt!

the new cue mode is great. it allows you to use the channel cues in the same way as the pioneer djm mixers work - if you press the cue, the channel stays 'latched' on until you press it again and it turns off. no more having to press 2 or 3 channel cues at exactly the same time to monitor them!

also, cdj 'hot' input fixed! - the trim now sits around 12 o'clock as it should, instead of on the lowest setting.

the rotary option is just amazing. i still can't believe you managed to do that!

not had chance to play with the fx yet but what a great update. the best mixer just got a LOT better and i get the impression that there is a lot more to come this year.

Awesome, glad to hear the hot CDJ inputs are fixed. Yeah from traktor I noticed that the meters seemed lower even with traktor's master level way up so it seemed in normal range where before I would be in the yellow with gains at 12 like that and traktor set the way I have it.

So for cueing is that what auto cue means?

And nice that they fixed the cdj hot input.. I was still hoping theyd adjust the way the menu trims affect the meter readouts.. Another example is running ableton straight to db4 soundcard..i find that runs super hot (even more than cdjs).

I too would prefer if they made it so the menu trim adjusts the vu meter level but this is a start. It's not just for CDJs- all input modes have gone down into proper ranges so ableton should be fixed too.

I also want to regular FX mode back since I like being able to toggle killsend mode as normal.

[Eizhauz]

The biggest thing imo that the db4 has going on is the per channel filter..

Is the per channel Filter the trimodal set up in the EQ section? I do like that there is a hardware toggle (DB4) for this rather than going to the menu to do so (DB2). Per Channel meters are killer on the DB4. Like the spacious layout of the DB2. Also like the possibilities of midi shift with DB2 setup, two rows of buttons in menu system to map.

[Xonetacular]

Is the per channel Filter the trimodal set up in the EQ section? I do like that there is a hardware toggle (DB4) for this rather than going to the menu to do so (DB2). Per Channel meters are killer on the DB4. Like the spacious layout of the DB2. Also like the possibilities of midi shift with DB2 setup, two rows of buttons in menu system to map.

I think he means the dual xone filters that each channel is assignable to. That might be the biggest thing I like about the DB4 that I couldn't deal with on the DB2. I love having two knobs and being able to switch between lowpass and highpass and being able to crank the resonance.

You also get a lot more midi shift on the DB4 than the DB2.

[Eizhauz]

I think he means the dual xone filters that each channel is assignable to. That might be the biggest thing I like about the DB4 that I couldn't deal with on the DB2. I love having two knobs and being able to switch between lowpass and highpass and being able to crank the resonance.

You also get a lot more midi shift on the DB4 than the DB2.

Okay, yeah I see that now. The Filter section on the DB4 has more control with the HPF/LPF range, while the DB2 only have one for both. I can see where the dynamic could be greater with more control.

DB4 has effects per channel. Aside from doubling a track onto another channel, can you assign more than one effect per channel on the DB4? I know the DB2 has a X/Y/Split toggle for FX.

I very much appreciate everyone's knowledge in this thread and the DB2 thread as well. It is helping me narrow down my decisions vs budget vs workflow... I am nowhere near a decision now! LOL.

[Eizhauz]

Ya sorry i didnt explain that very well on filters..

No, theres no way to chain efx units on db4 outside of the workaround u mentioned with channel matrix.. This might change someday but how theyll implement it - i dunno.. I imagine something with the new send fx mode..

Itll be tough decision til u see the street price of db2 (unless its out now and if so, what is the real price? Db4 can be found in us for 2100)

Two places have the DB2 presently at...

$1580 + shipping overseas

$1799 Stateside