If you use sync to have more creative time

[Emery]

@IZN - Im sure that wub wub one is a hit for the dub heads! I only ask because it seems like a lot of prep time for each mash, I imagine it would be hard to set up and work in on the fly. Some of my best mash-up's are on the fly using Key-finder makes a world of a difference I've noticed

Side note - Using key detection and mixing with it properly almost seems more like a game changer than the sync button. Beat matching is easy compared to detecting key by ear. I use Key Finder to do it, but it makes every gig a banger when you can control the energy builds without people consciously knowing it

[haze324]

Gotcha.

What I meant about ableton was, I think those routines are worth of production and you could probably clean them up and really nail them even more as a produced mash-up vs. playing a routine out and I think you'd have folks downloading your tracks and playing them out. That's not even my type of tunes, but the somewhat commercial vocals samples make them very crowd friendly. Props.

[Emery]

^agreed^ lots of potential there. Ableton is very different (if your unfamiliar), but it offers a lot more options when it comes to creating actual songs or mash-ups. Build it in ableton, Rock it in traktor

[IznremiX]

@emery
mixing in key definitely adds onto a set. that being said, I think anyone with a good ear mixes in key, regardless of if they use key detection software or not, as mixing harmonically just tends to sound better

@haze324
you definitely make a good point and I could potentially drop cleaner mashes using ableton. the reason im hesitant in trying ableton is probably because i'm so used to using traktor. also it seems (this is probably a stereotype) that when you drop a ableton set it has to be preplanned for the most part. I think it would reduce my ability to make new mashes and stuff on the fly during gigs.

edit: sorry I misunderstood what you meant haha. Although making a mash up in ableton would be cleaner, its a lot of fun doing it on the fly during gigs

[Gapout]

Although making a mash up in ableton would be cleaner, its a lot of fun doing it on the fly during gigs

+1 to this!

I used to plan my sets out all the time doing a lot of live mashups and mixes, but now that i have all my choons tagged with the Key, its hecka fun when you do mashups on the fly. Its really amazing how great you can get some really amazing sounding mashups.

My friend who uses Serato, came over and started playing around on my traktor rig. I have my entire library organized into playlists of genre...then in each playlist it is organized by key...He started mixing and he started grabbing songs and was like WTF how does all these songs sound so freakin awesome when you do this live mixing/mashups...i told him why and he was blown away. I love how easy it is in traktor to do so much stuff just on the fly, using samples loops, loop recorder etc.

It really does add a whole new dimension to mixing...and if u add a midi fighter on top...thats just icing on the cake

[Emery]

@emery
mixing in key definitely adds onto a set. that being said, I think anyone with a good ear mixes in key, regardless of if they use key detection software or not, as mixing harmonically just tends to sound better

I agree, and never actually thought of it like that - for a mix to sound/flow well it has to be harmonious. But I'd rather know the key ahead of time than cue up 3 songs before finding one that sounds right, or planning a set ahead of time.

Would it be wrong to say knowing the key of a song is as important as knowing bpm?

Sorry for getting off topic

[Gapout]

Would it be wrong to say knowing the key of a song is as important as knowing bpm?

Sorry for getting off topic

Not neccessarily...because knowing the bpm you can still do intro/outro mixing just knowing the bpm and you can still pass as a DJ...espicially if u are playing like top40 dance songs where the crowd just wants to hear the song and sing along to it while dancing...then when it starts to just go boom boom boom u mix in your next song, there is no harmony clash...

I personally think this type of DJing is boring as fuck and i hate it when DJs do this for an entire set.

oh hey ma look i played for an hour and only used 13 songs! look at me GOOOO!!!!!

[IznremiX]

I agree, and never actually thought of it like that - for a mix to sound/flow well it has to be harmonious. But I'd rather know the key ahead of time than cue up 3 songs before finding one that sounds right, or planning a set ahead of time.

Would it be wrong to say knowing the key of a song is as important as knowing bpm?

Sorry for getting off topic

Yea I'd agree with that. I think overall its just good to know your tunes ahead of time. What I try to do is just buy as few tunes as possible at a time, listen to them for a week, and cue point all the parts that I think I could use during my sets.

[Gapout]

http://www.mixcloud.com/djoddity/rad...=resource_link

Prime example of what i hate

[Gapout]

oh and Izn...those are wicked mashups dude...much respect for what you can do on that gear...

Ever think of recording them? I would def use the wub wub one when i do a dubstep set