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    hi guys...

    im using tsp2 with audio 4 dj card and a new lenovo laptop with dual core 2,2 ghz and 4 gb of ram...
    everything works fine, but my question is, as im practicing scratches alot im wondering is 8,5 overall latency good??

    because on my desktop pc i have 6.5 overall latency... and only maybe in certain scratches i can feel the difference so i need to adjust my fader hand...

    tnx in advance

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    I was testing this last night again.

    I use a Macbook tho.

    Anyway, I was able to set it to either 44,100 or 48,000. Both worked without issue.
    On both, I could set the latency down to 128 but it sounded better at 256.

    44,100 should be OK for your needs and latency of 256 should be sufficient. Thats the 8.5 mark I think.

    Which sounds the best to you?

    You have it too low if you are hearing pops and crackles, but I found there is a difference in sound between the other settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarasin View Post
    I was testing this last night again.

    I use a Macbook tho.

    Anyway, I was able to set it to either 44,100 or 48,000. Both worked without issue.
    On both, I could set the latency down to 128 but it sounded better at 256.

    44,100 should be OK for your needs and latency of 256 should be sufficient. Thats the 8.5 mark I think.

    Which sounds the best to you?

    You have it too low if you are hearing pops and crackles, but I found there is a difference in sound between the other settings.
    tnx for the reply...

    ill test the settings after i come home from work...

    i think i have my set to 44,100 and 256 but i cant be sure until i come home..all i know i dont have pops and crackles on 8,5 but on 6,3 ive issued some problems with sound...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mujagawudakhi View Post
    tnx for the reply...

    ill test the settings after i come home from work...

    i think i have my set to 44,100 and 256 but i cant be sure until i come home..all i know i dont have pops and crackles on 8,5 but on 6,3 ive issued some problems with sound...

    There you go. 44,1 and 256 is plenty small to be tight as a nuns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mujagawudakhi View Post
    …im wondering is 8,5 overall latency good…because on my desktop pc i have 6.5 overall latency...and only maybe in certain scratches i can feel the difference
    It's a 2ms difference. I'd bet a lot of money against you being able to tell the difference.

    I personally know one person who could feel/hear differences in latency that small, but he was in the top 3 in the world at Guitar Hero at the time and riding the edges of a <10ms window for 23 note/second runs because it made it easier to move his fingers that far in 43ms when the tempo wasn't drum-machine precise.

    No offense, but if you're really that sensitive, start competing in DMC. IME, until you get above 10-15ms, the only thing lower/higher latency does is serve as an excuse for not being good enough at what you're doing. And 15ms is still very doable…just takes some adjustment.

    (seriously…not trying to offend you…offering a suggestion to just stop worrying and focus on your technique)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostapha View Post
    It's a 2ms difference. I'd bet a lot of money against you being able to tell the difference.

    I personally know one person who could feel/hear differences in latency that small, but he was in the top 3 in the world at Guitar Hero at the time and riding the edges of a <10ms window for 23 note/second runs because it made it easier to move his fingers that far in 43ms when the tempo wasn't drum-machine precise.

    No offense, but if you're really that sensitive, start competing in DMC. IME, until you get above 10-15ms, the only thing lower/higher latency does is serve as an excuse for not being good enough at what you're doing. And 15ms is still very doable…just takes some adjustment.

    (seriously…not trying to offend you…offering a suggestion to just stop worrying and focus on your technique)
    im not offended... im tahankful for your response and explanation...
    i just wanted a couple of opinions and i got them now...

    tnx again guys

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