18 tracks in an hour

[3heads]

Disagree entirely with your comment and CNBF wasting my time to tell you why.

+1. I don't think I agree with a single word he said (well, except for the first sentence maybe).

[photojojo]

I suppose the style of music you're playing matters a bit... But I've seen people spin just about every genre in an awesome way... If you ask me, these guys who just let other people's tracks play out by themselves for 1-2 minutes are going to be bred right out of our scene, as the randoms are much more impressed by performance-style DJs than jukebox-style DJs.


EDIT: cause sometimes I'm bad at spelling. -_-

Or maybe it will be the other way around?

[lethal_pizzle]

@faderswagger... who knows how people's tastes will change in the future? Historically, of course, it is obvious what length of track people want on the dance floor; dance music spawned the 12" single.

[Emmett]

@faderswagger... who knows how people's tastes will change in the future? Historically, of course, it is obvious what length of track people want on the dance floor; dance music spawned the 12" single.

[backtothefront]

differences in style I guess. Personally, traditional DJs who will let one channel play just bore me to tears. These transition DJ guys ALLLLLLLWAYS go on about how "its all about the groove" and their "slow mixing style" is way better than the newer performance-stlye, and how we have no idea what we're doing.... So I feel obligated to voice opinions from the other side. There's something to be said for actually doing something behind the decks, and not being an EDM wedding DJ. An easy way to gauge how much time someone spends letting one track play out, vs how much time they're actually doing something, is how many tracks they play in an hour.

I suppose the style of music you're playing matters a bit... But I've seen people spin just about every genre in an awesome way... If you ask me, these guys who just let other people's tracks play out by themselves for 1-2 minutes are going to be bred right out of our scene, as the randoms are much more impressed by performance-style DJs than jukebox-style DJs.


EDIT: cause sometimes I'm bad at spelling. -_-

I'm afraid I have to disagree with your two posts, you are of course fully entitled to your opinion and I respect that however in my experience (UK and Ibiza) of most dance music orientated clubs (talking underground house/techno/trance), the music played over 8 hours is not frenetic quick mixes which you alude to, this would just not go down well and would drive most punters mad. The ebb and flow of a night it is generally what the promoters of most club nights are looking for and quick mix electro house sets are not the thing BUT there is always an exception to the rule which I accept.

I would also argue that the producers of the tracks have spent many hours creating it to be a certain way, obviously the DJ has licence to tweak, layer and add a new twist but do you not think he/she/they may have already been through many iterations and edits of tracks along with commissioned remixes(?).

IMHO, the DJ is there is play tracks in a thought out manner to give the people on the floor a good night out, whilst reacting on the go as well as educating them in new sounds at the same time. It is not an opportunity for self indulgent button mashing which may be technically exciting but not necessarily a good night not make.

I could of course be completely wrong and this is a dying view....

[The Pancaker]

I personally like both styles of mixing. When mixing electro I can go for almost 30 tracks in an hour. Without going all buttonmasher crazy style. But when it's about keeping the energy up and pumping it might make sense sometimes. But then again, If I'm mixing tech house I'll just play out most of a song, mixing in/out maybe 30 to 40% of the track. I really enjoy the technical part of mixing electro (which I haven't at all mastered yet), but I also love a long groove which I can dance to. Hey, I've heard electro sets which are mixed in a more "classical" way and sound MUCH better than button mashing/scratching/screwing around. Take Chuckie on one side, keeping his sets groovy while still upbeat and with a LOT of energy. Take Laidback Luke on the other side, sure he's a great technical skills guy but he sometimes goes a tad too far IMO. And then there's Kissy Sell Out who's a total beast at quick mixes and drops and what not, but at the same time keeping the groove and energy. Granted, groove and energy are subjective, but in the end it's all about your own style of mixing and how the audience reacts to the music.

[loverocket]

You will probably end up using 13-14 tracks.

[squidot]

I personally like both styles of mixing. When mixing electro I can go for almost 30 tracks in an hour. Without going all buttonmasher crazy style. But when it's about keeping the energy up and pumping it might make sense sometimes. But then again, If I'm mixing tech house I'll just play out most of a song, mixing in/out maybe 30 to 40% of the track. I really enjoy the technical part of mixing electro (which I haven't at all mastered yet), but I also love a long groove which I can dance to. Hey, I've heard electro sets which are mixed in a more "classical" way and sound MUCH better than button mashing/scratching/screwing around. Take Chuckie on one side, keeping his sets groovy while still upbeat and with a LOT of energy. Take Laidback Luke on the other side, sure he's a great technical skills guy but he sometimes goes a tad too far IMO. And then there's Kissy Sell Out who's a total beast at quick mixes and drops and what not, but at the same time keeping the groove and energy. Granted, groove and energy are subjective, but in the end it's all about your own style of mixing and how the audience reacts to the music.

i think there is a time and place for both styles of mixing as well. i generally like to hear/mix more traditional, long playing transitions in the deeper genres. it gives the songs the space they need to groove and build up all of the subtleties i love. when i'm listening/mixing drop oriented music (ie dubstep, dnb, electro) most of the time the quick mixes sound better to me. especially with dubstep, since i feel like most of those tracks are basically a 2-3 minute song that was just copied onto itself to make it twice as long. also, i generally like either only the drop or only the breakdown/buildup in dubstep songs, so it tends to sound better to me if there are quick drop-in style transitions without too much overlap.

[ksandvik]

A good DJ could make a one hour mix of that material.