DN-MC3000 vs. Kontrol S2 vs. Something Else(TM)

[Stewe]

It has clicks and actually I think it's those same encoders from kontrol X1. You can map it for smooth transitions, just make sure those commands are set to fader or encoder "relative" mode where you can manually adjust rotary sensitivity the way you want. For example it's easy to map tempo adjust and set sensitivity that low so you can move BPM by 0.1% which is very handy for manual beat matching.

[DirtyNerd]

It has clicks and actually I think it's those same encoders from kontrol X1. You can map it for smooth transitions, just make sure those commands are set to fader or encoder "relative" mode where you can manually adjust rotary sensitivity the way you want. For example it's easy to map tempo adjust and set sensitivity that low so you can move BPM by 0.1% which is very handy for manual beat matching.

That is what I thought. I just don't know about them....i don't like encoders with clicks for things like filters/gain etc...I will likely go with the MC3000 as it has dedicated filter AND gain knobs in addition to the EQs...don't need EQs and faders for 4 decks as I use Decks C & D for remix decks and my F1 has volume faders I can use and I just mix with those and the F1's filters...

[Stewe]

That is what I thought. I just don't know about them....i don't like encoders with clicks for things like filters/gain etc...I will likely go with the MC3000 as it has dedicated filter AND gain knobs in addition to the EQs...don't need EQs and faders for 4 decks as I use Decks C & D for remix decks and my F1 has volume faders I can use and I just mix with those and the F1's filters...

I totally agree those aren't for filters but why not map this encoder for high and move other EQ's one position up so low knob can be free for filter maping? Just a thought..

I would go for Denon as well. Better build quality then S2.

[DirtyNerd]

I totally agree those aren't for filters but why not map this encoder for high and move other EQ's one position up so low knob can be free for filter maping? Just a thought..

Thought about that...but it feels somewhat sloppy...plus the encoder requires me to look at the screen to see position of the "knob" as there is no indicator. Even if I switch out the knob with Chroma Caps, it can quickly get wonky if you turn the encoder past the max or min point...

I would go for Denon as well. Better build quality then S2.

I think this is why I will go with the MC3000. I have a DN-X1700 and I LOVE it...I wouldn't hesitate to buy more Denon equipment again...

[Stewe]

I like Denon because they put same quality components in to their controllers and CDJ line. Unlikely from Pioneer.

Happy mixing!

[DirtyNerd]

Ok, went for the DN-MC3000...got a good deal on one! In fairness, this is Behringer's fault. If they had released the CMD line, I would have bought a couple of those units instead...an MM-1 and a PL-1. As it is, I doubt that I will get any moving forward. I'll play with my workflow, but I also don't see me getting another F1 just yet...maybe a MF3D sometime in the future. Right now my setup will be either A) DN-X1700, X1, & F1 (+CDJs) or B) MC3000, & F1.

[Stewe]

Good choice! You can grab MM-1 eventually to replace old X-Session Pro

Cheers

[DirtyNerd]

I actually like the x-session pro a lot. I started with it and a launchpad and it treated me well. I paid like $45 for it. I just wish it had LED feedback and was built slightly more robustly...

If the release date for the CMDs was anywhere near soon, I would have waited and picked those up...but at this rate, I am not convinced that they will even be out before the end of the year. In the meantime, I should have all I need.

[DirtyNerd]

Just got the MC3000...played with it a little bit and can say that I am VERY pleased with it. I think that the MC3000 paired with an F1 and maybe a MIDIFighter will be a very combination for me.

I can keep it fairly minimal in terms of gear, but still get the benefit of controlling multiple decks, FX, filters, and remix decks. If I add anything, it will be a 2nd F1 or a MF.

[foxdanger]

GOOOD

I will get mine in christmas!

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