Thunderbolt

[botstein]

of course if all your storage is on raided ssd's go for it and you have a forest of money tree's

Well, I have a job.

And yes, the Promise Pegasus and the 2big are RAID storage solutions.

[tombruton69]

Well, I have a job.

And yes, the Promise Pegasus and the 2big are RAID storage solutions.

However the only thing you can read and write to is ur macbook pro and that is limited to 3gbs! unless you buy yourself a new pc and put a raid solution in that! would would need a decent raid card to hit the 10gbs so that again is gunna cost 500. so to buy the drive an build a pc that will see the difference is going to cost you 2grand! ur current setup with the macbook pro will not see any performance boost over usb apart from the transer starting about 1ms quicker.

are you planning on building a pc that you will be able to see the speed increase?

[tombruton69]

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I dont see why that needed to be a pm. I have not posted my comments to argue with you or tell you what to do. All I am saying is at this current moment in time the only way to see any advantage of thunderbolt over usb3 is to build a pc with one of the 2 mobos that support it. thats not my opinion atm its a fact.

I am not telling you to do it I am saying it is the only way atm. Obv there will be new mac pro's coming out but we dont know when and id say its almost certain they will have thunderbolt and sata 3, then you can raid some drives in that and see the benefits.

my posts have been about thunderbolt in comparison to usb3, as ur op was about the decision. from your other comments I see you are dead set on thunderbolt and if you really want it to say hey ive got a thunderbolt drive go for it. my pc has 64 gig of ram, is it rediculous yes, would i of been fine with 32 yes, do I see a performance post over that, not really. but I wanted it so I got it.

I dont understand why you would not have a pc. I have been accused of being a linux fanboy in the past but in all honesty I just use the best OS for the task ie server/raw computing/deving = linux gaming = windows music = OSX

I share access to a 3/4-petaFLOP supercomputer. I dont see how that makes any difference?

[basspenetrator]

didnt want to open an new thread.. i'm really wondering why there arent more thunderbolt adapters or even better hubs out there..

i am thinking of buying a MBA some time, but i have a firewire soundcard and an external monitor. i wish there would be a thunderbolt hub with a monitor connection, a firewire port and maybe some usb slots.. why is nobody producing hubs like that?

[fullenglishpint]

Belkin are bringing this out: http://www.belkin.com/us/thunderbolt but they keep pushing back the release date, it's currently Q1 2013.

I'm very much with you on this, I don't know how it works so I can't really say 'how hard can it be', but it does seem strange that no one's made a thunderbolt USB hub or something. You may say that's a waste of a high speed port, but let's face it there's barely anything made for TB except external HD's right now.

Maybe the production costs wouldn't be worth it.

[basspenetrator]

thanks for the link.. hopefully it will be affordable..

i find it really strange that obviously this is a really good connector regarding transfer speed, compatibility etc., it has been out since 1 1/2 yrs. now (feb '11) and there are so little adapters and hubs.

edit: did some searching. apparently belkin wants 400$ for the hub

[GeekGod]

Go with USB 3 drives. Your not going to see any performance increases with thunderbolt unless you are saturating your USB3 bus. As tom pointed out unless you have a massive raid (2-3 drives will not really cut it) you are wasting your cash on new technology. USB 3 can go up to 5gb a sec so its half the speed of thunderbolt.

Thunderbolt is shiny but its not worth the added cost just yet IMO.

[djproben]

The problem isn't that people want something faster than USB3 (at least not on this site); the problem is that we have firewire devices and these new Macs have done away with the firewire port. So the only option of connecting a FW soundcard or hard drive or whatever is a thunderbolt adapter. Apple is finally making one at least, but it's not a hub, so you can only connect one device to one port. The big promise of TB for us is not so much the speed as the compatibility - you can have a hub with a monitor port, two FireWire ports, and two USB ports all connected to a single thunderbolt bus. This would be great if you have an MBAir - put your sound card and other devices on one bus and you still have some USB ports available for MIDI controllers or to plug in a flash drive or whatever. So it's frustrating that TB has been available for this long but there's still no hub available (other than the $1000 monitor that has some firewire and USB ports) and the only option that Apple has made available basically wastes most of the flexibility of the port. The Belkin thing will be cool but shit, $400 for a freakin hub?? My USB hub costs $7.

[basspenetrator]

The problem isn't that people want something faster than USB3 (at least not on this site); the problem is that we have firewire devices and these new Macs have done away with the firewire port. So the only option of connecting a FW soundcard or hard drive or whatever is a thunderbolt adapter. Apple is finally making one at least, but it's not a hub, so you can only connect one device to one port. The big promise of TB for us is not so much the speed as the compatibility - you can have a hub with a monitor port, two FireWire ports, and two USB ports all connected to a single thunderbolt bus. This would be great if you have an MBAir - put your sound card and other devices on one bus and you still have some USB ports available for MIDI controllers or to plug in a flash drive or whatever. So it's frustrating that TB has been available for this long but there's still no hub available (other than the $1000 monitor that has some firewire and USB ports) and the only option that Apple has made available basically wastes most of the flexibility of the port. The Belkin thing will be cool but shit, $400 for a freakin hub?? My USB hub costs $7.

+1, exactly what i am thinking!