DJ Shiftee showing us we aint about that life with the Z2 n Maschine

[Nikefutbolero]

That other guy is right though.

It's got nothing to do with it being a dubstep battle routine. They can be technical and still sound listenable, for example: -



And I think this is awesome, even thought it's dubstep and someone as ancient as me should be waving my old man stick and shouting "turn that bloody rubbish down and put some Cliff Richard on": -



I've been into battle routines since DJ Cheese won the DMC in 1986. I listened to that on the Robbie Vincent show actually in 1986 and have followed the DMC, NMS, ITF, IDA etc. ever since. I've been running a forum aimed at battle/scratch DJs for getting on for 8 years. And I don't like this cos I'm "old" according to spencer4hire? GTFO of here. It's just an opinion, but at least it's an informed one. No disrespect to Shiftee as a DJ, cos he's great and miles better than I will ever be, but this particular routine - I ain't feeling it one bit.

lol that shiftee video was not dubstep, it was hip hop..

[hola amigos]

don't mind the old fart he's out of date.

[Rukks]

I don't know if its 'hip hop' that was alot of styles haha....one could contest 8bit lol.

I tend to agree with alot of the ppl here...it was alot of sounds, shiftee probably get bored with simple routines and wants to push himself just like all of us....the only problem is that there only so much frequency to put sounds so sometimes it gets cluttered. I prefer this routine by shiftee but its not nearly as complex. He probably feels that he has to use alot of features since NI is paying him, all those features just result in more sounds.

[kooper1980]

Throw up a comparable video of your latest routine mate. So many armchair critics on this site.


I'm very interested in this possible maschine remix deck control.

I'm not normally one for being this blunt but I actually agree with you here. It's one thing to give your opinion on this style of performance or genre of music. I'm firmly in the 'HATE this' category. Actually if I was in a club and someone started doing this it would make me want to repeatedly puch myself in the ears!! However, if you want to question someone's skills (and let's admit this dudes got skills) then you better bring something to the table that shows you are qualified enough to question!

[dillinger23]

I think Maschine control of Remix decks is a logical (and very savvy business wise) progression. The F1 is launched. Done and Dusted. The majority of those that existed in the market (pre to it existing) will have bought one already. Obviously it will still sell, but now only as more folk with an interest in DJing come onto the scene. Also with several software hacks around already for remix deck control AND NIs original promise of within time opening it up to other hardware this just makes sense, considering Maschine is also their hardware. This will have the double benefit of not only encouraging a few more onto the Traktor platform (or maintaining their patronage) in the face of Seratos new release and the accompanying hardware (pad) support, the pioneer SSX, et al, but it will also be a shot in the arm to Maschine MkII sales, encouraging new buyers to get a Maschine "hey kids! Not only does it do all the cool stuff it did before BUT NOW also controls REMIX DECKS! WOOHOO!", and on top of that if they limit remix deck control to the MKIIs and hold it back from the MKIs, others with a MKI may well upgrade to a MKII. Bearing all this in mind NI would be bat shit f***ing crazy NOT to incorporate Remix Deck control into the Maschine. Just my 2 cents.

[fullenglishpint]

I spoke to NI reps (and shiftee) at BPM and they said they "would love to" implement remix deck control on the maschine. That's not a guarantee, but it's nice to know it's on their radar.

On the subject of the performance, people seem to be totally misunderstanding the idea. No, you wouldn't want to go to a club and see that kind of thing for 3 hours, but that's not the point. It's a video purely aimed at DJs to show off what the NI software and hardware can do in the right hands. Low latency, lots going on, remix decks, effects running on multiple decks, timecode and all that. It's a showcase. I've seen shiftee and other scratch DJs doing sets of an hour or longer and of course they don't just button mash and beat juggle for an hour. They play songs and use those techniques for transitions. It wouldn't work for deep house but it's not supposed to!

[blackavenger]

On the subject of the performance, people seem to be totally misunderstanding the idea. No, you wouldn't want to go to a club and see that kind of thing for 3 hours, but that's not the point. It's a video purely aimed at DJs to show off what the NI software and hardware can do in the right hands. Low latency, lots going on, remix decks, effects running on multiple decks, timecode and all that. It's a showcase. I've seen shiftee and other scratch DJs doing sets of an hour or longer and of course they don't just button mash and beat juggle for an hour. They play songs and use those techniques for transitions. It wouldn't work for deep house but it's not supposed to!

Finally, someone on here "gets" it!

[photojojo]

You people need to chill out. Someone doesn't like the way it sounds, who cares!! And just because someone can't do something similar doesn't mean they don't have a right to be critical about it. If it wasn't for armchair critics the internet would have died in 1995.

[fullenglishpint]

And if it weren't for people calling out armchair critics it'd be nothing but!

[photojojo]

And if it weren't for people calling out armchair critics it'd be nothing but!

Oh yeah? I would like to see you post a critique of someone being critical of something as if it were critical to the existence of the human race in a critical way.