Xone: K2 Thread

[djproben]

You want two deck or four deck?

Two deck would do me fine though I'd love to play with a good four deck option too if it's available.

As for making my own, yeah that's true but I didn't want to reinvent the wheel, and it wouldn't just take me an hour - I'd probably spend days trying to get it perfect, and wind up making it overcomplicated, and then wasting time I could be spending playing music screwing around with mappings.... Might wind up doing that anyway but I'd rather start with something that works than from scratch.

[kallekenkel]

My experience has shwon that 4-deck just using the K2 is... possible.. but uncomfortable.
You'll have to work with many modifiers and shift buttons, which isn't exactly intuitive and bears the risk of doing something crazy when playing in a club.. especially after a couple of beers.

You may be interested in my simple 2 deck mapping: http://djsetup.de/einfaches-2-deck-xone-k2-mapping/
The site is German, but the picture should be self-explanatory: http://djsetup.de/wp-content/uploads...Mapping_v1.png

[MrPopinjay]

Why do you need so many shift modifiers? You get a fader, 3 knobs, an encoder and 24 buttons per deck. Surely that's more than enough? Of if you're not using the latching layers you get 8 buttons, still more than enough for one deck.

[kallekenkel]

Well if you're using the K2 standalone, i.e. without a mixer, you would need
- 4*3 = 12 potis for the EQ
- 4*3 = 12 buttons for kill EQ
- 4*3 = 12 buttons for play, cue, and sync
- 4 line faders for volume
- 4 push encoders for loops
- more knobs for gain, cue-levels, mix, cue activate, key.. and then you haven't covered effects yet.

Sure you could use latching layers, but then you forfeit multiple LED output colors.. and quite honestly: latching layers is nothing else than a built-in shift mode.

As said, it's possible, but uncomfortable.

[neilmcm]

Anyone one any ideas on this

I am trying to use my K2 as my soundcard for my maschine have the output from maschine set as K2 but no getting any sound , when I switch the output to my Db4 I get sound , not sure if I am missing some thing. I have 2 k2s connected via xlink then usb to a hub then the mac.

[MrPopinjay]

Well if you're using the K2 standalone, i.e. without a mixer, you would need
- 4*3 = 12 potis for the EQ
- 4*3 = 12 buttons for kill EQ
- 4*3 = 12 buttons for play, cue, and sync
- 4 line faders for volume
- 4 push encoders for loops
- more knobs for gain, cue-levels, mix, cue activate, key.. and then you haven't covered effects yet.

Sure you could use latching layers, but then you forfeit multiple LED output colors.. and quite honestly: latching layers is nothing else than a built-in shift mode.

As said, it's possible, but uncomfortable.

Yeah you don't need the majority of that stuff. If you're using a small controller you really need to prioritise better. EQ kill switches? Total waste of controller real estate.
At most I would use a single modifier if I were to make a mapping like that and that would be shift + loop size encoder = gain. And as a good portion of people use autogain that isn't even needed.

[kallekenkel]

I hear what you are saying, and I thought the same thing.
Still, as per my experience after a few months, I still feel that you cannot really perform on 4 decks comfortably on the K2.
It "works" technically, I agree.

[neilmcm]

Really scratching my head with this now tried routing traktor through the K2 to test it didn't get audio from it , tried routing the audio from my computer didn't get anything either on both K2's i have . I tested the channel I was routing the K2 into on the db4 and it works fine so either both sound cards on the K2's are busted or t's something else . Anyone any ideas to try .

I am trying to use my K2 as my soundcard for my maschine have the output from maschine set as K2 but no getting any sound , when I switch the output to my Db4 I get sound , not sure if I am missing some thing. I have 2 k2s connected via xlink then usb to a hub then the mac.

[djproben]

Haven't tried it yet but from the picture this 2-deck mapping is exactly the kind of thing I had in mind. Thanks!

My experience has shwon that 4-deck just using the K2 is... possible.. but uncomfortable.
You'll have to work with many modifiers and shift buttons, which isn't exactly intuitive and bears the risk of doing something crazy when playing in a club.. especially after a couple of beers.

You may be interested in my simple 2 deck mapping: http://djsetup.de/einfaches-2-deck-xone-k2-mapping/
The site is German, but the picture should be self-explanatory: http://djsetup.de/wp-content/uploads...Mapping_v1.png

[johndavid]

is everyone happy with the volume output on the K2?

I've had it since june, didn't pay too much attention while playing out with it but at this point I think I just don't believe the output is sufficient at all, it's caused too many issues, especially when not having access to a master mixer and not doing soundcheck because of showing up at the club mid-event.

Having the gains on maximum on the mixer, and increasing the master output usually almost does the trick but not always... the channel levels are still half of vinyl and cdjs volumes

I use both outputs (Rca and front jack )and do external mixing, playing mostly house and techno.

I'm now considering getting another soundcard (like an NI Audio card for dvs) which really defeats the purpose of having bought this controller.

Any opinions/recommendations?

ps: this post sounds like a rant and perhaps it is, let me make it clear I find the levels usable but not "good enough".