A disconnect I'm noticing in the culture

[whiskeyflip]

Every single time I remind us to be critical, and screw up the circle-jerk the mods and some of of the other other veterans work so hard to protect, they try to make me out to be the asshole like this, to keep their little masterbation party going...

But whatever, the points have been made. I've explained why it's important to be critical of the industry. Hopefully some of the people in the circle jerk will realize that, while the rest will just keep pleasuring each other and letting the scene fall to shit.

[0Notice]

Every single time I remind us to be critical, and screw up the circle-jerk the mods and some of of the other other veterans work so hard to protect, they try to make me out to be the asshole like this, to keep their little masterbation party going...

I started discussing this two or three years ago or so when there was an influx of new DJs telling each other to buy mixtracks... And a lot of people agreed, just like now, and a lot of newbies cried, and several of the moderators bitched about me "being negative".

So yeah you guys are right, not much has changed on this forum, it just should.
But whatever, the points have been made. I've explained why it's important to be critical of the industry. Hopefully some of the people in the circle jerk will realize that, while the rest will just keep pleasuring each other and letting the scene fall to shit.

Good luck with your judgments they accomplished nothing here. People will make the scene what they want it to be. Those DJs with mixtracks aren't really ruining your scene and they aren't stealing your gigs so get over it. Newbies can provide their opinions to others however they want, just as you can. Everyone has a voice why would you want to silence it when they are trying to be helpful?

[whiskeyflip]

A blind man has the right to offer to lead a blind man, without telling him he's also blind. He probably shouldn't do that though.

[0Notice]

A blind man has the right to offer to lead a blind man, without telling him he's also blind. He probably shouldn't do that though.

Newbies aren't blind.

[whiskeyflip]

......? Did the metaphor go over your head, or....?
We're talking about people who don't know what they're talking about giving advice. I've just shortened it by calling them "newbies".

[dripstep]

Is your attitude and your obsession with handies the reason you have had so many accounts? You come at us with a lot of attitude that really isn't warranted. The newbs who think that their new mixtrack is the best thing they have ever owned is no different than anyone thinking their cdj2000nexus is the bomb. Let the newbs learn their way, let them discuss their craft, and let it be a hobby if that's all it is for you.

You worry about all of the gigs being stolen by 2 week in DJs.

[whiskeyflip]

It's VERY different... 2000nexuses are insanely overpriced, but their build quality is among the highest. calling them "the bomb" is much more accurate than calling a mixtrack "the best thing ever". And I'm STILL talking about newbies GIVING advice, not ASKING for it. The problem is that while they're still "learning their way", they're getting other newbies lost when they offer to guide them, thus creating a viscous cycle.

Also it's pretty unwarranted to just decide that I must be worried about gigs... But I'll humor you, personally I am a resident for the two largest rave event companies in my area, and that takes up the majority of my available gig time. I'm not worried about losing gigs, as I said, my issue is that I'm watching the gear quality deteriorating, because people aren't being critical of it.

[Ed Paris]

i´m just gonna add my opinion on this whole topic.

f*ck the industry standart! if you´re used to play with a banana, go to the club and play with the banana! you don´t need to buy expensive gear nor do you need to know how it works as long as you feel comfortable with using that banana to please your crowd. the crowd won´t care much with what you make them dance. only biased djs do...
i have yet to play at a club where i´ll be looked at for using "cheap" gear. hasn´t happened and won´t happen!
i can only advise every "newb" to not believe the hype and to wetten your feet before you jump for the "expensive" "high end" stuff!
RGAS and beeing told to only buy expensive gear are 2 different things!

[0Notice]

I was saying that all new DJs have knowledge that they can share with others they aren't "Blind." Nothing is wrong with them giving advice, if they are ill-advised someone will correct them. Everyone has good information to share.

[Stewe]

Was one of your usernames 'oilythread'?