Snares as beatgrid markers in Traktor

[mdcdesign]

Is it just me or does Traktor do an excellent job of beatgridding automatically ???

I just load new tracks into Traktor and 98% of the time the beatgrid is perfect.

I would say that 1 out every 50 tracks I might just have to delete the first marker and replace it at the first beat.

Why does beatgridding come up so often ?

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Yes. And +1 to the bolded bit.

Typically with EDM, the major issue is that occasionally it'll mis-detect the first beat, especially on trance tracks which start with pads + vocals.

[djproben]

(1) Please don't follow Ean's advice about gridding on the snares. The advice makes sense for listening and beatmatching by ear - the snares are easier to hear - but if you put your first gridmarker on the snare, it's almost never on the "1", and you lose any advantage of beatcounting and phrasing that goes with beatgrids. This question comes up often enough I almost wish Ean would make a video rescinding that advice, hehe.... If you do choose to do it that way anyway, listen to where in the count the snare is and beatgrid ALL your tracks that way - otherwise it's a total mess if you have some gridded on the snare and others gridded on the "1". Ugh....

(2) I find Traktor's autogrid dead on with most of my tech house, house, minimal, and other steady four-on-the-floor genres. With hip-hop, dubstep, dnb, it is probably on track about 80+% of the time - still pretty good but definitely needing some attention to the grids; usually just moving the gridmarker but occasionally adjusting the tempo (usually it sets a harmonic of the regular tempo; e.g. 140 bpm becomes 105). With funk and rock and other music with live drumming, however, it's pretty much worthless. Terrible job and I almost always delete the grid and start over or just leave them ungridded and play by ear. Serato is much better software when it comes to such tracks in my opinion.

[loverocket]

Serato may find the BPM but it does not grid the track which is why SYNC is possible.

I'm curious to see how Serato DJ handles the job.

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[djproben]

Serato may find the BPM but it does not grid the track which is why SYNC is possible.

I'm curious to see how Serato DJ handles the job.

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Yeah I just mean Serato's way of dealing with transients. If I'm playing a lot of funk out live I'd much prefer to do so with Serato than Traktor -- less babysitting of the software to worry about and I can focus on listening and mixing.

[b1sh0p]

Is it just me or does Traktor do an excellent job of beatgridding automatically ???

I just load new tracks into Traktor and 98% of the time the beatgrid is perfect.

I would say that 1 out every 50 tracks I might just have to delete the first marker and replace it at the first beat.

Why does beatgridding come up so often ?

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I would say it gets about 80% of dnb right. It has a really hard time finding the downbeat and tunes will be off by a measure. It does a pretty poor job with anything that's not straight forward, boom TSS boom boom TSS. I don't expect it to get everything right. A lot of dnb is syncopated.

[lethal_pizzle]

is the beat supposed to be in the middle or beginning of the kick waveform?

Not in the middle, because then everytime you hit the hotcue you'll cut the transient off. Plus you'll get clicks when you loop breakdowns just before a beat comes back in.