My remix on someone else's EP - Need help

[djmetalgear]

name me some...without googling it...

theres no point in even going back and forth with u cuz ur dead set on ur opinion, so even if i offer any artists you'll assume that theyre either A- shit, B- i googled them, C- shit. So its pointless.

[keithace]

I would have given props to successful artists even if I don't buy or listen to their music. Go ahead and google it and tell me what you come up with...

[LanceBlaise]

there used to be a time when [insert nostalgic memory here]...

yea, i get it. there used to be a time for everything. There used to be a time when we read by candle light... but times change. id rather progress and make my own moves than sit and wait back and shop out my mix or production to some label who won't bother cause theyre flooded by tons of other DJs trying to get picked up. fk that.

it doesnt matter how saturated the market is.. the cream rises to the top in everything.

And you completely have missed the point of what I said, and at the same time have helped to reiterate what I am saying. There is too many kids making shit music just because they stole ableton off some download site and grabbed a few loop packs. It doesn't have anything to do with progress, it has to do with over saturation of garbage and/or poor music not yet up to proper standards. I am all for innovation and using new methods to do things differently. I am a producer and DJ who is legally blind and without the advancement of todays technologies I would not have been able to retrai myself to dj or produce when my eye sight began to diminish. When you had real A&R's running and approving the music that was being distributed only stuff that was of real quality made it through.

Music evolves for good producers, but the quality of a lot of the music out there is digressing because of the standars in which these back pocket record labels use to release stuff.

[djmetalgear]

And you completely have missed the point of what I said, and at the same time have helped to reiterate what I am saying. There is too many kids making shit music just because they stole ableton off some download site and grabbed a few loop packs. It doesn't have anything to do with progress, it has to do with over saturation of garbage and/or poor music not yet up to proper standards. I am all for innovation and using new methods to do things differently. I am a producer and DJ who is legally blind and without the advancement of todays technologies I would not have been able to retrai myself to dj or produce when my eye sight began to diminish. When you had real A&R's running and approving the music that was being distributed only stuff that was of real quality made it through.

Music evolves for good producers, but the quality of a lot of the music out there is digressing because of the standars in which these back pocket record labels use to release stuff.

I think you guys are blaming something called THE INTERNET and not realizing it. It was much harder to DJ and produce music back then, and the internet changed the world. Its pretty simple, just stop following/listening to artists that are shitty. I seriously don't understand such the negative view. No matter what genre or medium you use, there will ALWAYS be shitty artist. But now with the internet, you can find them easier.

Denying someones desire to learn and create music is do narrow minded just cause it is now easier to find tools to create music.

A violin, a timed-old classic instrument, will sound shitty if the "artist" doesn't know how to play it. Looping together 25 samples in ableton will sound shitty if the producer doesn't know what hes doing. Its pretty simple.

Writers/publishers say the same shit about bloggers. Directors say the same shit about YouTube... These old heads are all losing money because people they are NO LONGER NEEDED as much as they used to be. A&Rs and publicists used to be the gate keepers of media. Fuck that. blame the internet.

Its crazy the mentality musicians have. Music is such a PERSONAL thing to people... but they don't know how to separate personal taste from something that sounds good. People hate on independent artist releasing their own music and it sounding like shit, but then they hate on producers with good sound that make it big because they've 'gone pop'. Artists just like to complain when THEIR view is not the one being portrayed.

[Sambo]

A violin, a timed-old classic instrument, will sound shitty if the "artist" doesn't know how to play it. Looping together 25 samples in ableton will sound shitty if the producer doesn't know what hes doing. Its pretty simple.

100%, indisputable fact. Good music will always be good music, and no over saturation of the market will change that. Some albums are absolute masterpieces of sound, and you can imitate them after, and someone before might have even done the same thing, but neither will compare to that one masterpiece.

[keithace]

I think you guys are blaming something called THE INTERNET and not realizing it. It was much harder to DJ and produce music back then, and the internet changed the world. Its pretty simple, just stop following/listening to artists that are shitty. I seriously don't understand such the negative view. No matter what genre or medium you use, there will ALWAYS be shitty artist. But now with the internet, you can find them easier.

No...there are a million times more shit artists...

Denying someones desire to learn and create music is do narrow minded just cause it is now easier to find tools to create music.

Who did that?

A violin, a timed-old classic instrument, will sound shitty if the "artist" doesn't know how to play it. Looping together 25 samples in ableton will sound shitty if the producer doesn't know what hes doing. Its pretty simple.

No shit...

Writers/publishers say the same shit about bloggers. Directors say the same shit about YouTube... These old heads are all losing money because people they are NO LONGER NEEDED as much as they used to be. A&Rs and publicists used to be the gate keepers of media. Fuck that. blame the internet.

hate to tell you...they still are the gatekeepers...(example: EDM and radio play)

Its crazy the mentality musicians have. Music is such a PERSONAL thing to people... but they don't know how to separate personal taste from something that sounds good. People hate on independent artist releasing their own music and it sounding like shit, but then they hate on producers with good sound that make it big because they've 'gone pop'. Artists just like to complain when THEIR view is not the one being portrayed.

Now you are putting words in our mouths...

You are talking to two older schoolers who have both totally embraced technology. What we are talking about is the deluge of shit music out there because any numbnut can pirate the software and samples. When labels would turn you down it was probably for a good reason. Knowing someone that runs a small west coast label, they listen to EVERYTHING they are sent. They are always looking for artists to support and help break out. If you release on your own, your impact will be small unless you promo the shit out of it to working DJs and get good feedback. And at that point if it that good a label will want to sign it to give it a proper release.

[Jhamilton831]

Just an update...I got $20 for my track. I didn't sell all rights to it, just the right to sell it while still getting all credit. Considering the fact that it is my third song and my first time getting money from making music, I think that it is pretty good. Thanks for everyone's input.

[keithace]

Good for you man....keep working hard...

[sarasin]

Yeah I know :/ But it sounds better than, not mastered at all, believe it or not. I think it will come with time, this is my first time trying to master a song.

mmmm, you should really not be mastering your own tracks, but I get it....you still getting there!

Well done for getting on the EP.

[Jhamilton831]

Yeah I am not mastering my tracks anymore lol. Next time I am definitely paying someone to do it, until I get the right equipment or work in a studio.