Tiesto's Hakkasan residency, is this the end of Ibiza?

**KS2** · 05-03-2013, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by Polygon

I asked this because big clubs in ibiza are kinda sorta stopping signing residencies with big dj's.. And while what you said about being it cheaper for europeans is completely true, just try to imagine an ibiza with no known dj's. It'd decline very rapidly, and if vegas is starting now, i can only imagine it being massive by then, attracting not only americans but europeans, too, maybe with arrangements for cheaper, no-baggage flights to LV..

Now, i'm not talking about 1-2 years , more like 10-15 yrs from now. And i totally see this situation as a possible one.

Have you ever been to Ibiza?
The only DJs that have lost residencies are the ones that are asking for too much money because their heads have grown too big.
Most of these are commercial DJs like the ones you mentioned who pull the crowds that usually know very little about the music and are there because they think Ibiza is the place to be.
The island is still full of BIG DJs. Look at the Ushuaia opening party and the Circoloco opening party and the Sankeys opening party and the We Love opening party and the Amnesia opening party. All big big names, particularly the Ushuaia opening. Just no cheese.

Pacha got rid of most of their residencies because they realised how ridiculous it had become. Pacha's name was suffering because of it and their profits were too because of how much they were demanding. They got rid of a load of the shit (there's still some left though) and now look like they're going to have some decent parties this summer. Guy Gerber's night and Insane Ibiza or whatever it's called look to have some nice lineups planned.

The new club La Bomba looks to have a mix of more commercial stuff and underground on different nights to cater for everyone and if you read what the owner has to say about it it sounds like they have a good ethos.

And I've not even mentioned Kehekuma or Enter.

**brocklambert** · 05-03-2013, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Polygon

I asked this because big clubs in ibiza are kinda sorta stopping signing residencies with big dj's.. And while what you said about being it cheaper for europeans is completely true, just try to imagine an ibiza with no known dj's. It'd decline very rapidly, and if vegas is starting now, i can only imagine it being massive by then, attracting not only americans but europeans, too, maybe with arrangements for cheaper, no-baggage flights to LV..

They quit booking the superstar DJ's because it's pointless to book a DJ for $50k when you can run at capacity with a $10k DJ. It's pissing money away. Check out their rosters in Ibiza this summer... arguably the best ever, even without the cheese tossers like Tiesto.

Like I said before... Vegas isn't even close to being a destination for anyone outside of the midwestern US. You can book all the superstar DJ's you want, but Vegas is still way behind Miami, Chicago, NYC and LA in terms of nightlife.

**031999** · 05-03-2013, 12:14 PM

this gonna be great for Ibiza, definitely gonna cut down on all the stupid American rich kid hipsters there. Maybe soon i will make my pilgrimage there!

**mdcdesign** · 05-03-2013, 12:17 PM

Only way I'd ever spend £2k going to Vegas would be if Steve Aoki's sister was offering extras in an upstairs room.

**the_bastet** · 05-03-2013, 12:34 PM

@squidot. If you get a chance, get out to Halfway to Halloween downtown tonight. Its in a warehouse where Industrial dead ends. Were you at Vanguard on a Monday. I used to run a house/DNB night there.

**DJ SB** · 05-03-2013, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by djproben

^^^ This! I live in LA but like most of LA I wind up in Vegas every once in a while, and the music in nearly every club I've been to generally sucks. I'd love to know if there's any underground tech house or actually pretty much anything electronic going on there.

As for what effect anything Tiesto does (or anything that happens in Vegas) will have on Ibiza, I agree with everyone else here, absolutely nothing. Never heard of this club (and there's one in LA too!) and I'd never go see Tiesto in either place so I really couldn't care less. And I'm happy to say there will be one more American in Ibiza this summer for a couple of days

We should drop tracks sometime! PM me.

**Sambo** · 05-03-2013, 02:28 PM

Things that will end Ibiza:

1. A nuke
2. The Apocalypse
3. Ragnarok
4. My bowels after a long weekend binge

Things that won't end Ibiza:

1. Overpriced DJs not playing there
2. See 1.

**the_bastet** · 05-03-2013, 06:33 PM

Dude. I dont even see the apocalypse ending Ibiza. In fact, Ive chosen it as my go to spot to be when the apocalypse does happen. I was homeless in Ibiza for two months and enjoyed life.

**Polygon** · 05-04-2013, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by KS2

Have you ever been to Ibiza?
The only DJs that have lost residencies are the ones that are asking for too much money because their heads have grown too big.
Most of these are commercial DJs like the ones you mentioned who pull the crowds that usually know very little about the music and are there because they think Ibiza is the place to be.
The island is still full of BIG DJs. Look at the Ushuaia opening party and the Circoloco opening party and the Sankeys opening party and the We Love opening party and the Amnesia opening party. All big big names, particularly the Ushuaia opening. Just no cheese.

Pacha got rid of most of their residencies because they realised how ridiculous it had become. Pacha's name was suffering because of it and their profits were too because of how much they were demanding. They got rid of a load of the shit (there's still some left though) and now look like they're going to have some decent parties this summer. Guy Gerber's night and Insane Ibiza or whatever it's called look to have some nice lineups planned.

The new club La Bomba looks to have a mix of more commercial stuff and underground on different nights to cater for everyone and if you read what the owner has to say about it it sounds like they have a good ethos.

And I've not even mentioned Kehekuma or Enter.

Yes, i've been to ibiza and not just once.
And while many people know what good music is, and realize those "big name" dj's are nothing but commercial stunts, many people still swear by guetta and the such. Don't ask me why, but there's a reason why these guys always fill up stadiums. Because they have a name.

And even tho i know this is reeeeally far fetched, i still think there's a small possibility for vegas to become the next ibiza. Call me crazy...