clubs & digital

[kevinmcdonough]

yeah,

just like has been said i think its a systemic thing, vinyl DJ's think they are "real" DJs and have hated CD players for the longest time, right up until the last couple of years when CDJ's were released and CD's were full accepted, and now it'll happen again with digital DJ's it'll be hated on for a while until people actually get the chance to use it and realise the advantages.

Although the manager of the club I'm playing at just now is all for laptops many aren't and don't like the fact that it sometimes looks like your checking your email. I think a large part of this is due to many wedding type DJ's and to a certain extent small pub DJ's just using software like itunes or windows media player and setting up songs on a playlist, and not actually DJing in the sense we would think with proper specialized software that replicates the functions of a set of decks.

And to be fair, though I've just got into digital Djing in the last month or two i've been a DJ for 11 years or so and so even I do feel a little guilty with the ability to auto sync tunes. But its part of a skill set, right? In the past being able to manually beat match a song was one of the basic skills (as well as reading the crowd etc etc) that separated a "DJ" from someone just playing records. Now its just gonna be new skills like cue point juggling and interesting effects use that will make you stand out.

And anyway I generally play a fair mix of music depending on where i'm DJing and the majority of it isn't recognised properly by the tempo and beat scan so still plenty of manual beat matching for me to do to keep my hand in.

[djmoonie]

To be fair, whilst I too went through the 'sync' is just cheating thing in my head, you soon realise that its just an appropriate use of technology, that frees you to do other things.

And lets face it, whilst everyone talks about beatmatching, its only one of a handful of techniques for mixing.

[minimalmintek]

And lets face it, whilst everyone talks about beatmatching, its only one of a handful of techniques for mixing.

:eek:
I think is the most important technique in BOTH worlds...
You can make a very good set only beatmatching 2 tracks and playing only with volumes... just take a look at those Soulful DJs who don't even have an EQ...

I think the problem for the moment is that "real DJ's" (as you call them) can't accept the fact that today everyone who has 500$ (for controler and soundcard) and an internet connection (to dl tracks) can pretend to be a DJ...
You're not a DJ after playing 2 months in your room with a VCI... imo... but a lot of guys think that they are able to play in club just because they like how they use the effects sections and they can't even make the difference when tracks are synced or not...
I think that's why so many people don't pay attention to full digital DJs...

[wrong chris]

And lets face it, whilst everyone talks about beatmatching, its only one of a handful of techniques for mixing.

word. but this fact shouldn't overshadow it's importance. it's one of the fundamental building blocks for learning how to mix, it will still be relevant for years to come despite Sync feature in software. It's also good to know for if you want to play a track on the fly that hasn't been beatgridded, if you can't beatmatch you're fucked!

[silver fox]

Have you ever been rejected for working digitally? How should a digital DJ present himself in order not to come off as a fake?

I think we all got a little off topic here. we shouldnt be debating the people that hate against bit-jockeys or the advantages of certain mediums or the importance of beatmatching, as we have all been through this numerous times.

i think we should be answering the question above.

the fact is that although there shouldnt be hate against us digital dj's, there is. and there prob will be for a fair while yet.

i think we should discuss ways and experiences of getting around these people.

[f0tif0]

the fog was cold and really fast since club are is like jet so it covered the intire club in second ;]

[JesC]

I always ask the real djs...(especially if they are mixing depeche mode)

Hey what did depeche mode use to make that track? Synth/Midi controllers hook up to....(drum roll please).....A computer!

[wrong chris]

the fog was cold and really fast since club are is like jet so it covered the intire club in second ;]

your story cracked me up man. sprays the haters with hater-raid aka fog! lol
classic move

[wrong chris]

I always ask the real djs...(especially if they are mixing depeche mode)

Hey what did depeche mode use to make that track? Synth/Midi controllers hook up to....(drum roll please).....A computer!

depeche mode is cheating!!!!!!! :P

[JesC]

depeche mode is cheating!!!!!!! :P

WRONG!