What am i doing

[DJup]

Hi

pretty new to all this, but to give you a bit of history i love electro/dubstep/drum and bass/techno so a bit of everything really, and would really like to produce/mix all of the above,I use Reason and VirtualDj at the moment and iv got a few things up on soundcloud and i keep playing around with things but i would love some feedback on where im going right/wrong any help???

[djmetalgear]

Dude what?

In all honesty, that's some of the worst "music" I've heard. Can't tell if this is a joke... Esp after seeing ur soundcloud pic.

[Era 7]

lolwut?

[johney]

hit DJ Wanka up for collabs, his music sounds like it could be your kind of thing

[DJup]

Dude what?

Was just lookin 4 some advice from like minded people who enjoy music as I'm pretty sure that's how anyone does anything, they get advice from people who have more experience, clearly I was wrong

[DubluW]

Troll. Has to be a Troll!

[djmetalgear]

http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=71036

[ThinAir]

Dude what?

In all honesty, that's some of the worst "music" I've heard. Can't tell if this is a joke... Esp after seeing ur soundcloud pic.

And his real name above his location?!

[Karlos Santos]

FFS will you guys just quit it.

This guy is not a troll. He has just started out. If you don't like his music, either be constructively critical or shut up.

If he is guilty of one thing it is being over exuberant and posting stuff up before it is or he is ready.

He asked to be advised on where he is going wrong. He didn't come on saying "listen to my amazing music".

Grow up.

[ThinAir]

FFS will you guys just quit it.

This guy is not a troll. He has just started out. If you don't like his music, either be constructively critical or shut up.

If he is guilty of one thing it is being over exuberant and posting stuff up before it is or he is ready.

He asked to be advised on where he is going wrong. He didn't come on saying "listen to my amazing music".

Grow up.

In that case, for me the first thing that seems to stand out is that there is far too much going on at once throughout a lot of the track, and all of things that are going on are jostling for position and not one of them is winning.

Pick a part of your track that you really like, or that grooves really well and try and bring this to the fore.

I think that development of your ideas is key, too. At the moment, your track seems to jump from one idea to the next without it seeming to make much sense as from how you got from A - B.

To break this down a bit (and speaking as a classically trained musician), think of it like a journey (yes, a cliché that is probably overused, but it works, so why not).

You should have various stop off on your journey:

The first idea (your EXPOSITION), should be something that tells the listener what the major theme for your track is going to be, it could be a catchy synth hook, some grooving or driving bass, or a vocal (this list is by no means exhaustive).

The second part of the structure should be developing your idea (funnily enough, known as the development section). Use your first idea, and play around with it and come up with something that is not exactly the same as your exposition, but that that we can hear what you have done.

The key to the development is to think of it a little like a mathematical problem... The second idea you have been working on for your development, is your answer, and the exposition at the start is your question. The interesting bit is the workings out so don't just jump straight from one idea to the next, show us how you got there, let us listen to it and let us try and figure out where it is going.

The final section, is whats called the recapitulation, or recap. Work from your second idea, back to the first, and again, show us how you got there (It doesnt' have to be a mirror image). If you just jump straight from one to the next, then it just leaves us (the listener), confused as to "What the hell just happened".

This does not mean to say that your music should always follow this structure. At its simplest, this would be ternary form (A-B-A) and could work, but could end up sound boring. Maybe use the A-B-A idea as a guide for the for the opening, do the same for the middle, and then for the end of the song. (So like A-B-A 1, A-B-A2, A,B,A3 if that makes sense).

Use this as a guide to structuring your songs, but please don't treat it as gospel. Music is organic and should be treated as such.

And remember that we always associate house/dance/edm/electronic music (or whatever generic umbrella term we are using for our genre of music today), with groups of 8 bar phrases, or multiples of 8.

My production is still quite limited, and I wouldn't want to be giving you duff info, so I will leave that piece of advice to someone who is better versed in this than I am.

Any questions, PM me, and I will be happy to help