What % of Ableton DJ's mime?

**deevey** · 08-22-2013, 01:34 PM

I'm not hating Ableton, like I said I'm going to get one for the production but won't use it for the clubs when the situation changes every hour or minutes. so it's not for regular DJ (if can't switch any songs on the fly as I thought, again sorry if i'm wrong).

Yes you are wrong - read my lenghtly post.

I think premade sets are for the important gig (for like huge gig and people know you and the music and came to see you. in the situation you must not fail on performing).

Again - my lengtly post

DJ = Disc Jockey.
Producer is producer, they can perform at a club or concert hall. disagree when they call them self a dj.

I'm primarily a DJ - not a producer, I play and remix other peoples tracks in Ableton.

DJ these days = Digital jockey

Okay I will stop from here. Already explained enough and hope you all know my point.

Being that you do not understand Ableton well enough to use it for DJ'ing.

**jdownesbaird** · 08-22-2013, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by deevey

Being that you do not understand Ableton well enough to use it for DJ'ing.

Exactly.

**P4ULSON** · 08-22-2013, 01:43 PM

i've seen alot of DJ's use ableton for live performances. and have sat with a few very good ones. Setting up a set takes a shit load of time.... yea you can do it on the fly some say you can do it in a few seconds haha analyze warp and setting up a track takes some time. Only cool uses i've seen is People using the Bridge or Midi sync with traktor to do some cool stuff but using pure ableton can be done but not that desirable if your coming from a traditional background.

**djoh** · 08-22-2013, 01:43 PM

http://www.mixcloud.com/competitions...x-competition/

Brixton Academy denies Ableton in the competition.

**jdownesbaird** · 08-22-2013, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by djoh

http://www.mixcloud.com/competitions...x-competition/

Brixton Academy denies Ableton in the competition.

Yeah, and it also says you're supposed to record your set with CDJs or vinyl. This is a very specific type of competition, and they have the right to set parameters to make judging as consistent and fair as possible. This has nothing to do with the effectiveness of Ableton for DJing in the real world, which is what you keep arguing against.

**djoh** · 08-22-2013, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by jdownesbaird

Yeah, and it also says you're supposed to record your set with CDJs or vinyl. This is a very specific type of competition, and they have the right to set parameters to make judging as consistent and fair as possible. This has nothing to do with the effectiveness of Ableton for DJing in the real world, which is what you keep arguing against.

"Mixes should be 1 hour long and recorded using CDJs or Vinyl decks. We are happy for entrants to use Serato and Traktor, as well as midi controllers; however mixes recorded on Ableton or such will not be accepted."

no, it is a DJ competition. and there's nothing special with CDJ and Vinyl(has a jog and a platter) so shouldn't "very specified type of competition" be applied. what do you mean by fair and unfair? i wouldn't care if ableton is accepted.

"Please note that we are looking for a DJ that understands the skill of a warm up set, setting the tone for the headliners, and not someone that’s going to play party bangers from the offset, as the winner will be the first DJ on."

**MRG12EG** · 08-22-2013, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by djoh

"Mixes should be 1 hour long and recorded using CDJs or Vinyl decks. We are happy for entrants to use Serato and Traktor, as well as midi controllers; however mixes recorded on Ableton or such will not be accepted."

no, it is a DJ competition. and there's nothing special with CDJ and Vinyl(has a jog and a platter) so shouldn't "very specified type of competition" be applied. what do you mean by fair and unfair? i wouldn't care if ableton is accepted.

"Please note that we are looking for a DJ that understands the skill of a warm up set, setting the tone for the headliners, and not someone that’s going to play party bangers from the offset, as the winner will be the first DJ on."

what is your point? youve dug a hole... cant you just admit...

your 1st post so wrong that people have put you right cant you just hold your hand up and say oh i didnt know that.. end of.

**DISaS73R** · 08-22-2013, 02:45 PM

They're giving a specific DJ slot on a specific night. I reckon that counts as a very specific type of competition.

**deevey** · 08-22-2013, 04:46 PM

The reason Ableton is not allowed for the likes of that competition is simple, you can simply drag and drop your entire arrangement and tweak the mix in layout mode entirely, thereby removing the need to mix a track whatsoever.

This is not the normal way to play a set, but could easily be used to gain votes with a "perfect" mix and not necessarily require any live mixing or live mixing skills whatsoever.

Even as an Ableton DJ I can understand that its near impossible to judge skills when you have the possibility that everything is automated.

On that point it is a crying shame that Traktor removed its ability to Automate mixes via Midi - although if that was the case they'd probably ban it too haha.