Is ripping vinyl worth it?

[LoopCat]

Hey would you look at that... He's using real vinyl, like the kinda stuff we're arguing over.

*face palm* completely missed the point

[b1sh0p]

Vinyl only releases are an homage to vinyl only dj's. Labels do it as a thank you to vinyl dj's because there are so many releases that no longer get pressed. What's hard to understand? They want the tunes to be exclusive and only available to the dj's still playing vinyl.

@djproben: the label I was referring to is Samurai Horo. Horo is the vinyl only sub label of Samurai Records.

[DJSigma]

Vinyl only releases are an homage to vinyl only dj's. Labels do it as a thank you to vinyl dj's because there are so many releases that no longer get pressed. What's hard to understand? They want the tunes to be exclusive and only available to the dj's still playing vinyl.

What a load of absolute bollocks. You're in no position to speak on behalf of all the labels that put out vinyl-only releases. There's no reason for anyone to take you seriously.

[b1sh0p]

What a load of absolute bollocks. You're in no position to speak on behalf of all the labels that put out vinyl-only releases. There's no reason for anyone to take you seriously.

Did you read the thread and see where I posted about asking the label owner? Some of you cats are dense as fuck.

[DJSigma]

Did you read the thread and see where I posted about asking the label owner? Some of you cats are dense as fuck.

Yep, you said this: -

I recently had a discussion with a label owner that runs a vinyl only sub label. Personally, I don't care about mediums. Play whatever you want. Sync. Loop. Make fart noises in the mic. Just make it sound good. Anyway, I asked him why they run a vinyl only sub label. His response was that vinyl is their favorite medium. They run the label as an homage to vinyl dj's because there are so many tunes that never get pressed these days. It's their way of saying thanks. They enlist producers that know these tunes will have a very limited, exclusive run. The pressings are incredibly sought after and sell quickly. The producers line up for it because its special. Just this week, they released a beautiful box set LP with 20 tunes, marble vinyl, fantastic artwork... The works. They also ended up caving and releasing it digitally because they knew some asshole would rip it. That, IMO, sucks.

But nowhere do you say "the label owner said he doesn't want people ripping the vinyl and playing it themselves". You said that they released a digital version because people might rip it, presumably because they would put it online for others to download for free. Otherwise, there is no logic to it at all as a person who buys vinyl can rip if even if they don't release a digital version.

Plus, speaking to one label owner who didn't even say "don't rip records that we sell, even for personal use" does not give you the right to speak for all labels out there, even though you seem to think it does. You're talking pure shit about something you know nothing about and your single anecdote doesn't even back you up, lol. "Dense as fuck" indeed.

[b1sh0p]

Yep, you said this: -


But nowhere do you say "the label owner said he doesn't want people ripping the vinyl and playing it themselves". You said that they released a digital version because people might rip it, presumably because they would put it online for others to download for free. Otherwise, there is no logic to it at all as a person who buys vinyl can rip if even if they don't release a digital version.

Plus, speaking to one label owner who didn't even say "don't rip records that we sell, even for personal use" does not give you the right to speak for all labels out there, even though you seem to think it does. You're talking pure shit about something you know nothing about and your single anecdote doesn't even back you up, lol. "Dense as fuck" indeed.

I'm not "speaking for everyone." I'm giving my opinion based on conversations I've had.

Why do labels have vinyl only releases? Just for the hell of it?

[DJSigma]

I'm not "speaking for everyone." I'm giving my opinion based on conversations I've had.

Why do labels have vinyl only releases? Just for the hell of it?

Throughout this thread you've been telling people not to rip vinyl that they own so they can play the rips because according to you it's "disrespectful" to labels and producers, so you are speaking for labels and producers. Why you're doing that, I don't know.

The only thing you've put forth as evidence is one conversation you supposedly had with a label owner who didn't even say anything that backs you up. But he couldn't say anything that backs you up anyway, because he's not even putting out vinyl-only releases, lol. You said yourself that they also put out digital versions of their tracks.

So now you're left with "but why would labels have vinyl-only releases?", but implying that the only possible answer to that is "because they don't want people who buy their records to ever rip them as they want them to play the actual record each time" is just you making things up again. How does putting out a vinyl-only release stop someone from ripping the vinyl for their own use anyway??? What you're saying isn't even logical. Labels and producers would not give a fuck if you bought their record, ripped it and played the rip. Why would they? You bought their fucking record. You showed them respect by saying "here's my money". You didn't put the rip online so other people could pirate it. Only an absolute tool would say "you're disrespecting me by playing that rip bro" and a person like that isn't worth listening to anyway. Neither are you. End of conversation.

[keithace]

isn't you ripping the vinyl and playing it just as exclusive as playing the vinyl itself?...I don't understand some of the logic in this thread...

If I may be so bold to ask...how old are you bishop?

[b1sh0p]

Throughout this thread you've been telling people not to rip vinyl that they own so they can play the rips because according to you it's "disrespectful" to labels and producers, so you are speaking for labels and producers. Why you're doing that, I don't know.

The only thing you've put forth as evidence is one conversation you supposedly had with a label owner who didn't even say anything that backs you up. But he couldn't say anything that backs you up anyway, because he's not even putting out vinyl-only releases, lol. You said yourself that they also put out digital versions of their tracks.

So now you're left with "but why would labels have vinyl-only releases?", but implying that the only possible answer to that is "because they don't want people who buy their records to ever rip them as they want them to play the actual record each time" is just you making things up again. How does putting out a vinyl-only release stop someone from ripping the vinyl for their own use anyway??? What you're saying isn't even logical. Labels and producers would not give a fuck if you bought their record, ripped it and played the rip. Why would they? You bought their fucking record. You showed them respect by saying "here's my money". You didn't put the rip online so other people could pirate it. Only an absolute tool would say "you're disrespecting me by playing that rip bro" and a person like that isn't worth listening to anyway. Neither are you. End of conversation.

You really are being dense. Djforums must be mad slow.

Again, I'm talking about vinyl only releases. The specific LP I mentioned got a digital release. The other 9 releases on that label never received a digital release and never will. You can't answer why they do vinyl only releases. You have dodged the question. This thread is going in circles and become mad stale. You've even gone ad hominem. I hope djforums gets busy tomorrow.p


Btw, I've never told anybody what to do. I don't give a fuck what you do. I gave my opinion about ripping vinyl only releases. In general, rip what ever the hell you want. Vinyl only rips are bogus, IMO.

[b1sh0p]

isn't you ripping the vinyl and playing it just as exclusive as playing the vinyl itself?...I don't understand some of the logic in this thread...

If I may be so bold to ask...how old are you bishop?

The medium is the message. Look it up.