Playing 140 Jungle Style in the Club Discuss...(Future Jungle, Jungle Tekno)

[backtothefront]

Indeed Remember going out in the early/mid 90's to the nights in Bristol as the sound was developing, plus the raves of course.

Anyone remember the Jungle Tekno compilations?

[Glitchwerks]

This genre is nothing new, it used to be called Jungle Tekno back in the 90's. 140-150 Breakbeats yes, but with a DnB bassline instead of a bouncy breaks bass line.

Not exactly. "Jungle Tekno" was just used as a name for a compilation series by Jumpin' & Pumpin'.

It was a terrible compilation series too, I might add. The vinyl copies were useless as too many tracks were pressed on each side, and the CDs were rubbish with tracks pitched up and/or edited.

Sound quality was awful.

Anyway, there was a brief period of time during the transition from hardcore to jungle where different terms were used, such as darkness and happiness, but "jungle tekno" was never really a common term. Even "ambient jungle" and "intelligent jungle" were used to describe early Bukem, Studio Pressure (aka Photek,) DJ Crystl, 4 Hero's "Parallel Universe," etc., but that didn't last long.

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Indeed Remember going out in the early/mid 90's to the nights in Bristol as the sound was developing, plus the raves of course.

Anyone remember the Jungle Tekno compilations?

Yep. Hated them too, for the reasons mentioned above.

Still, I owned them all because they were easy to find at Tower.

[b1sh0p]

Bpm is just a number, I've never understood why sometimes it carries more weight than the actual production techniques, when used to define a genre of music. Not aimed at you b1sh0p, but just an observation I've made, seems to be common since the advent of digital djing.

http://www.beatport.com/release/welc...jungle/1300588

Schoco's recent album, Future Jungle, range of bpms, plenty in the 140-145bpm range.

I agree speeds have increased, certainly 150 seems to be more common over the last ur, but my point stands, bpm is just a number, the producrion techniques and resultant sound I believe define whether it is Jungle or not. I'll ask some of the Jungle heads this eve, be interesting to see what they say. Interesting discussion on here, makes a nice change. Have good day all

Tempo is instrumental in defining a genre. Nobody would say they're playing 90 bpm house. There is no such thing as 140 jungle. It would be breaks or dubstep. At this point, jungle/drum and bass is so varied that a lot of people are just calling it "170" now. I have entire mixes without an Amen or a 2 step beat, but I still consider myself a dnb dj.

[backtothefront]

Not exactly. "Jungle Tekno" was just used as a name for a compilation series by Jumpin' & Pumpin'.

It was a terrible compilation series too, I might add. The vinyl copies were useless as too many tracks were pressed on each side, and the CDs were rubbish with tracks pitched up and/or edited.

Sound quality was awful.

Anyway, there was a brief period of time during the transition from hardcore to jungle where different terms were used, such as darkness and happiness, but "jungle tekno" was never really a common term. Even "ambient jungle" and "intelligent jungle" were used to describe early Bukem, Studio Pressure (aka Photek,) DJ Crystl, 4 Hero's "Parallel Universe," etc., but that didn't last long.

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Yep. Hated them too, for the reasons mentioned above.

Still, I owned them all because they were easy to find at Tower.

Yeah, definitely, they were terrible pressings, not even full length tracks, despite being 'DJ Friendly'! . I've only really known Jungle and obviously what spawned off that at Drum and Bass, do remember a couple of MC's spouting Jungle Tekno a couple of times, but never really liked the term personally.

[backtothefront]

Tempo is instrumental in defining a genre. Nobody would say they're playing 90 bpm house. There is no such thing as 140 jungle. It would be breaks or dubstep. At this point, jungle/drum and bass is so varied that a lot of people are just calling it "170" now. I have entire mixes without an Amen or a 2 step beat, but I still consider myself a dnb dj.

Tempo plays a part granted, but the production and sound of it is more important IMHO. We'll probably have to agree to disagree, but there are definitely genuine Jungle tracks at around the 140bpm mark.

On a wider point to the forum - I don't understand the fixation with BPM's, it's as if, you must be an 'EDM' DJ if you play 128, or you're a Deep House DJ at 120-125, or you're a Dubstep DJ if it's bang on 140.

Even if the tracks are made to a specific BPM, does anyone on this forum seriously pay any great attention to the exact BPM when they are playing out, as long as its in the approx. region of the orig BPM (+-3 or 4% for e.g.)? Personally I'm all for no key lock and the ebb and flow of a set, including BPMs - maybe I, despite moving to digital, still have my turntables hat on.

[Glitchwerks]

do remember a couple of MC's spouting Jungle Tekno a couple of times, but never really liked the term personally.

[031999]

Played another set at a Massive rave here in ATL in Saturday.

Played for 3 1/2 hours, all jungle. Moving between 130 and 140. Then up to 160 DnB

We had that room PACKED OUT!! This track was the favorite of the night, an old one but still good.

Some would call this "Bass Breaks". I just group it all in the genre "Jungle"

[b1sh0p]

Played another set at a Massive rave here in ATL in Saturday.

Played for 3 1/2 hours, all jungle. Moving between 130 and 140.

We had that room PACKED OUT!! This track was the favorite of the night, an old one but still good.

Some would call this "Bass Breaks". I just group it all in the genre "Jungle"

Please don't associate that garbage with Jungle. That's just Breaks, not jungle. Aquasky used to make drum and bass but haven't for years.

[031999]

I do consider Drum and bass, breaks, 140, 160, footwork, Juke to be in the category of Jungle because they all make use of "non straightened drum patterns". I play all those sub genres, so its easier just to say Jungle.

Aquasky is awesome, Ragga Twins are awesome. Plain and simple.

[b1sh0p]

I do consider Drum and bass, breaks, 140, 160, footwork, Juke to be in the category of Jungle because they all make use of "non straightened drum patterns". I play all those sub genres, so its easier just to say Jungle.

Aquasky is awesome, Ragga Twins are awesome. Plain and simple.

It's not Jungle. Point blank. Don't shit on the genre I've dedicated my life to. Call it whatever the hell you want, but this garbage is not Jungle Music!