Do you beatmatch manually or sync?

[calgarc]

I beatmatch, thats how i learned... thats how it will be... sync is to fix mistakes and do controllerism routines.

[mostapha]

I learned on vinyl over a decade ago. I use sync just because it's easier.

[ZxZDeViLZxZ]

I don't think I've ever used sync having learned on vinyl in the 90s it just doesn't feel right... Plus I'm not beatgridding my library at least to the extent sync becomes rrliable

[ZxZDeViLZxZ]

How does sync fix a mistake? That loses me just drop a cue in quick succession and hit it back right and carry on...

[kooper1980]

Very true, phrasing and learning song structure is a huge must. A lot of my friends sync and their mixing is technically on beat but they can't match phrases and harmonically blend too good.

True - IMO learning to phrase properly is way more essential than beatmatching. Having said that beatmatching doesn't take long to learn so may as well have that in your bag as well.

[drewjonn]

Actually all what I tried to do now is counting the number and fix the beatgrid using the jogwheel (if I prefer not to sync).

I think sync makes it easier if I choose to mix the intro. (I learned that most DJs mix on the outro, is that true?) I don't play RnB though, I only do prog. house, electro house, and very bit of trance.

I am saying that my ears aren't that used to the beats and phrase. So I mostly like using numbers all the time. Is that bad? CDJs don't provide sync and I am afraid of looking stupid when encountering one. Is it just not possible to start the mix on parts I want instead of waiting for the outros or counting phrases?

[ZxZDeViLZxZ]

Ok that statement is a little off but to go with it... After a while your can count a phrase from a percussion break for most all electronic music

[mostapha]

I am saying that my ears aren't that used to the beats and phrase. So I mostly like using numbers all the time. Is that bad?

That's a separate issue from leaning to beatmatch, but yes, it's essential that you understand that.

True - IMO learning to phrase properly is way more essential than beatmatching. Having said that beatmatching doesn't take long to learn so may as well have that in your bag as well.

Agreed. The question wasn't whether you know how, though. I don't think there's any valid argument for not learning it. Not using it all the time is largely a matter of preference, IMO.

[ImNotDedYet]

Actually all what I tried to do now is counting the number and fix the beatgrid using the jogwheel (if I prefer not to sync).

I think sync makes it easier if I choose to mix the intro. (I learned that most DJs mix on the outro, is that true?) I don't play RnB though, I only do prog. house, electro house, and very bit of trance.

I am saying that my ears aren't that used to the beats and phrase. So I mostly like using numbers all the time. Is that bad? CDJs don't provide sync and I am afraid of looking stupid when encountering one. Is it just not possible to start the mix on parts I want instead of waiting for the outros or counting phrases?

Start counting...1-2-3-4, 2-2-3-4, 3-2-3-4, 4-2-3-4, 5-2-3-4, up to 8-2-3-4 and the phrases will be on the 17 or 33, most of the times on multiples of the 33. (every 32 bars where a bar is 4 beats) You can mix on anything you want, (and it's oftentimes done w/ progressive and electro) but it will sound best if it's still phrased properly. After a while, you can stop counting all the time.

[drewjonn]

Start counting...1-2-3-4, 2-2-3-4, 3-2-3-4, 4-2-3-4, 5-2-3-4, up to 8-2-3-4 and the phrases will be on the 17 or 33, most of the times on multiples of the 33. (every 32 bars where a bar is 4 beats) You can mix on anything you want, (and it's oftentimes done w/ progressive and electro) but it will sound best if it's still phrased properly. After a while, you can stop counting all the time.

not trying to get lessons here. but aren't there 8 bars/phrase? but since every songs could be different depending on the producers, the numbers can be different. like the common ones consist of 4x8, some could be 2x8, 3x8, or even 5x8 for intros. outros are harder to mix for me. i just sometimes don't know where to start mixing if the number is different. hope you get what i mean, lol.